Specialized Turbo Vado/Como/Tero/Tero X User Club

How It Started / How It's Going...

Abus 5755L key-retaining. Essentially the 5750 mentioned by Specialized but in the XPlus key vs the Plus key.

Ended up ordering from Amazon.de and received it in the US in under a week.

This *just* fits, there's approx 1mm clearance to the inside of the rim. Had to drop the rear wheel to install it, but didn't need to remove the fender.

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Are you using both bolt holes without modification? I ordered a 5750L because that was all I could find, but it won't line up with both holes. I do love the 100mm chain with it, it just barely fits my 22' 4.0. I can fit one of the holes, but I love the cafe lock concept. Thanks!
 
It was close, but my 5755L fit my size M 2022 Vado 4.0 mounts with no modifications. I ordered from Amazon.de for delivery to US via DHL because I wanted the key retaining version.
 
A Story of Recent Days... :D

Or, when you had just replaced your chain on the Vado to discover it was slipping on the two smallest cassette cogs... (Requiring you to find, order, and then re-install these cogs on your e-bike to avoid buying the whole expensive new cassette; these cogs are not easy to find!)

Or, when you had just labouriously treated your Vado SL with a wax based lube to discover that that chain was also stretched but you had no replacement at the ready...

:D
 
I've gone to the wax side. I was using the straight dry lube with MoS2 and don't think it was doing the job. I cleaned the chains in solution then put a magnet to it. All the stuff that came off was magnetic. It doesn't attract dirt at all but it must be burnishing the metal or something like that. All the crud in the bottom was magnetic. So straight paraffin wax it is. I feel better playing in it also.

Also going to get a bench mount repair stand. I have the Feedback portable which works good but the heavy bike on the tripod has tried to tip one too many times. Works good with the lighter bikes and I like it but with the heavy bikes when I get to tugging and pulling and forget the stand configuration it can tip.

Probably got 20-30 miles on the waxed chain and really liking it. Makes for a nice shine on the concrete floor when it's worked in properly.

Have couple thousand miles on the Vado now. Checked the brake pads and they look good, wearing evenly with probably half the pad left. This is with the 200mm rotors. I think with the larger rotors you don't have to scrub as much and saves the pads.
 
It was close, but my 5755L fit my size M 2022 Vado 4.0 mounts with no modifications. I ordered from Amazon.de for delivery to US via DHL because I wanted the key retaining version.
I gave it a whirl tonight. I can confirm the 5750L also fits the 22 Vado 4.0 perfectly with no modifications needed to the lock. I was thinking the screw head might have been too wide, but it was just right.
 

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Also going to get a bench mount repair stand. I have the Feedback portable which works good but the heavy bike on the tripod has tried to tip one too many times. Works good with the lighter bikes and I like it but with the heavy bikes when I get to tugging and pulling and forget the stand configuration it can tip.

FWIW my Vado 4.0 is quite stable on my Park Tool PCS 10.3 work stand. Rated for 80lb. IMHO it’s one of those buy-once-cry-once tools.
 
Here's what I did. Ordered the park tools bench mount bike repair stand, then decided that only solved part of the problem. The chair lift came out of a handicap van and had it on craigslist for $100 just to get rid of it and no bites so thought hey, part of the problem solved right there. It rotates, forward/reverse, and lifts. But it wasn't quite enough, then decided on the atv lift which was cost the most but it can have multiple purposes. The whole thing is kind of an investment in the future. The como step thru is the hardest to mount in a stand because the seatpost has to be used and with all the attachments has a bit of weight. I think this will solve that problem somewhat.
 

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The park tool had the female threads on the jaw cross threaded, like not centered then another set of threads over the top of them, made the mating of the two pieces kind of trial and error. I notified them and like the great company they are they are sending a replacement.
 
Here's what I did. Ordered the park tools bench mount bike repair stand, then decided that only solved part of the problem. The chair lift came out of a handicap van and had it on craigslist for $100 just to get rid of it and no bites so thought hey, part of the problem solved right there. It rotates, forward/reverse, and lifts. But it wasn't quite enough, then decided on the atv lift which was cost the most but it can have multiple purposes. The whole thing is kind of an investment in the future. The como step thru is the hardest to mount in a stand because the seatpost has to be used and with all the attachments has a bit of weight. I think this will solve that problem somewhat.

Now THAT is some redneck engineering! :D

Local shop has one of these bad boys...

 
I was going to replace the pads on the 5.0 but the pads were too thick for the aftermarket 203mm discs so I put the old ones back in. They were probably 1/2 used, pretty evenly as I check adjustment about every chain relube. This was the front and for some reason I was getting the dreaded squeal sound after I put them back in. After a couple days of that I reasoned that I had not changed anything but maybe put the pads back in reversed, so I reversed them again and what do you know? It worked! No more squeal.
 
I watched a guy do a test on chainsaw chains, he used 99% lye to clean them which I had never seen before. Lye and grease make soap. I guess the lye dissolves the grease pretty easily.
 
The News After The Failure of my MY2017 45 km/h Vado 5.0 (2019-2022)

My Vado 5.0 lasted for three years. The first ride on 1st of November 2019, and the major failure on 18th of October 2022. (I delivered the warranty card and the proof of purchase on 3rd of November this year to Specialized Warsaw).

Firstly, it turned out the carbon drive belt inside the Specialized 1.2s motor broke (the e-bike was out-of-warranty). Next, the Spec people discovered a frame crack around the motor area (a known design flaw for that e-bike series). The frame was on a lifetime warranty as I:
  1. Duly registered my Vado on specialized.com post the purchase
  2. I allowed Specialized do the "obligatory 1st service" after the first 200 km ridden.
(Be aware your Specialized frame would have its warranty limited to 2 years if you do not do the [1] as above).

I was worried. My Vado is registered and insured (technically speaking, it is a "moped" here). In any case I would need to complete the formalities such as deregistering the e-bike and terminating the insurance policy.

On 29th of November, I got the call from Specialized WAW: My frame warranty was accepted by Specialized. Unfortunately, the choice of the new frame colour was limited to beige-brown or red. I chose the red, as the fasterestest colour :) I will have to pay for the new motor, as agreed before.

There will be many formalities to complete. The new frame will come with the new VIN, so I will need to properly update the registration... Cannot wait to get my Highway Star again!
 
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The News After The Failure of my MY2017 45 km/h Vado 5.0 (2019-2022)

My Vado 5.0 lasted for three years. The first ride on 1st of November 2019, and the major failure on 18th of October 2022. (I delivered the warranty card and the proof of purchase on 3rd of November this year to Specialized Warsaw).

Firstly, it turned out the carbon drive belt inside the Specialized 1.2s motor broke (the e-bike was out-of-warranty). Next, the Spec people discovered a frame crack around the motor area (a known design flaw for that e-bike series). The frame was on a lifetime warranty as I:
  1. Duly registered my Vado on specialized.com post the purchase
  2. I allowed Specialized do the "obigatory 1st service" after first 200 km ridden.
(Be aware your Specialized frame would have its warranty limited to 2 years if you do not do the [1] as above).

I was worried. My Vado is registered and ensured (technically speaking, it is a "moped" here). In any case I would need to complete the formalities such as deregistering the e-bike and terminating the insurance policy.

On 29th of November, I got the call from Specialized WAW: My frame warranty was accepted by Specialized. Unfortunately, the choice of the new frame colour was limited to beige-brown or red. I chose the red, as the fasterestest colour :) I will have to pay for the new motor, as agreed before.

There will be many formalities to complete. The new frame will come with the new VIN, so I will need to properly update the registration... Cannot wait to get my Highway Star again!
So, do you get a 2022 frame?
 
So, do you get a 2022 frame?
No! That would be impossible because of the battery and motor format. Additionally, there is that Type Approval thing. I assume that would be the 2018-present frame of Vado 6.0. I can predict some issues there but let us wait and see.

I absolutely need to get a pre-2022 Vado as I own as many as three 604 Wh batteries from the Gen 1.
 
In 3 years how many km/miles did it go? Do you have an idea of how much of your distance is under power vs pure pedal power?
It was exactly 13,858.9 km as registered on my Strava. However, there were also other people riding my Vado, so the correct figure would be closer to 15,000 km (I have not checked the odometer status on the day of failure).

That e-bike was only ridden with assistance, as it was too heavy to be really ridden unassisted. (That is, I had two or so "emergency rides" on the pedal power but that was really slow!)
I was typically using 40/40% assistance on the flats. During my mountain vacations, I often had to climb in Turbo.

I think it was rather the distance that killed the carbon belt. Regarding the frame, frame cracks often develop in bikes with the rigid fork such as my version of Vado, and I tell you I was not saving my "big" Vado hard terrain rides! :)
 
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Would another option be to buy a new Vado at a 35% discount? My lbs suggested this when I needed a new motor replacement on my Vado SL that was 2 years old? Unfortunately Specialized approved the new motor before I could check this option out. I was concerned I might have to buy a new battery sometime soon so starting out with a new Vado SL at a 35% discount sounded like a good option. According to Specialized website-“In addition to our limited warranty, many Specialized and Roval-branded products are covered under our Assisted Replacement Policy. If you damage an eligible product while riding and it’s not covered under warranty, we’ll replace or repair it at a discounted price. The discount structure for assisted replacement pricing for 3 years of ownership is 35%.”
 
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