Correct, I just want to "Re-arrange" the display so the items I want are all on the same screen, I don't want to add more items and I don't want to use my cell phone for a display. I didn't think the display was wireless though, mine has 2 wires coming off the back and into the frame.
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Stefan Mikes
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A common confusion!
Yours is TCD-w ("w" for Wired).
Kahn meant TCD (wireless).
All Vado/Como/Tero use the wired display.
All SL e-bikes and Levo/Kenevo can optionally use the wireless TCD.
Customizing both displays is identical.
Stefan Mikes
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No, where?
Thanks, I was able to program it so I can see MPH, Trip ODO and Time at one glance. It would have been nice to program the "remaining battery/heart rate/cadence" field to the elapsed time display instead but not possible, not a big deal as I can toggle to it when I want to or just keep track on the clock.
Stefan Mikes
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All TCD displays are capable; these cannot just do everything. Hence my aware choice of a Wahoo ELEMNT bike GPS computer that connects to Specialized e-bikes. The main Data Page can have as many as 11 Data Fields there. (I use the second Data Page for GPS navigation). I swap the Wahoo between my both Specialized e-bikes, and the computer recognizes each of them automatically!
That is nice, I'll put one on my list. Is there a monthly fee for the GPS?
Stefan Mikes
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Nothing! The GPS and updatable maps are included free.
Be cautious: The ELEMNT Roam is more expensive but not better than the cheaper ELEMNT Bolt v2. Bolt v2 is more modern, and some capabilities of Bolt v2 are better than they are in the older Roam!
Does PAS care what gear I am in? For example, today I wanted to try the power on some steep hills. I switched it on to #1 but I stayed in a higher gear to keep up the speed and get more of a workout. If I do this does that make the system work harder and possibly use more battery than if I shift to a lower gear?
Stefan Mikes
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There is nothing like PAS-only in the premium mid-drive motors. A mid-drive motor only pays the attention to the product of how hard you push your pedals (torque) and of your pedalling rotational speed (cadence). The product is called "pedalling power" or "human power input". In given Assistance Level, the bike controller multiplies your pedalling power by so called Boost Factor, and such mechanical power of the motor (combined with your own) is transferred to the rear wheel.
Meaning: "Mashing" pedals times slow cadence would give the same pedalling power as "spinning the cranks" times (less energetic) pushing the pedals. You won't get more workout by staying in a high gear; you're going to damage your knees by doing so. If you learn spinning the cranks faster but with less of pedal pressure (in a lower gear), you will deliver exactly the same pedalling power to the system with the same effective motor assistance. And the same number of calories burnt.
Spinning the cranks has many health benefits. It is also good for the drivetrain (less wear). Moreover, mid-drive motors are more effective if your cadence is above 70.
My favourite show that I am often giving to my traditional cycling mates is this:
1. I ride at a slow cadence in Eco
2. Then I dramatically downshift
3. Then I spin the cranks.
I am able to deliver so much power by doing so I simply disappear at distance -- without increasing the assistance! (On my last Sunday group ride, I managed the cadence of 135 but cannot maintain it for long).
My show. The power indicated here is the pedalling power.
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Wow thanks for all that info Stefan! I'm going to go and adjust my main screen to show cadence and will experiment with that on tomorrow's ride. I expect to be doing a lot of experimenting at first, yesterday's experiment was my usual ride with no power at all and due to now having 10 gears instead of 3 I was able to do it in about 25% less time and my average speed was 2 MPH greater than I was getting on my 3 speed. Today's experiment was seeing how fast I could get home from the new BBQ restaurant being built right on the bikeway, I made the 6 miles in 17 minutes which includes the very steep hills, however it also cost me about 20% of my battery. Using the power today I know I didn't get as much of a workout as usual because I only drank a fraction of the water I normally do.
BEC111
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FWIW, I have mph, cadence and distance for the ride on my TCD main screen. My secondary screen swaps battery level for cadence. I track other stats using either Strava, Apple workouts, BLEvo or ride with gps on my apple watch.
I’m still experimenting with the right combo as I just got the TCD. My intent for the TCD is to have basic ride data on the inexpensive device on my handlebars and using my more powerful devices for health and fitness data. It’s only been a few weeks, so it’s too soon to tell.
Stefan Mikes
Gravel e-biker
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- Mazovia, PL
I suggest you add Cadence and Power to the Data Page #2. That will help proving the cadence and power are directly related.
That's because gaining elevation is used to increase the potential energy of you + e-bike, which is only partly recovered on descents.
Using Mission Control app, you could adjust assistance level and maximum motor power % for Eco, Sport and Turbo modes. For instance, reducing both assistance and max motor power and trying to cover the same route at similar speed will make a better workout. Do not reduce these parameters drastically in the beginning, though.
Stefan Mikes
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- Mazovia, PL
If you want to practice, do it in small steps. Downshift by one gear and try to improve. My natural cadence is 76 rpm but I am usually riding above 80 because I learned doing that.
I've found my 11 spd really spoils me, my preferred cadence has settled into a narrow range of 80-85. fwiw.
I was watching a youtube video on rope type spokes. Pretty interesting to see if they make an impact on the bike world at an affordable price, right now they are $8 ea at one vendor.
I was watching a youtube video on rope type spokes. Pretty interesting to see if they make an impact on the bike world at an affordable price, right now they are $8 ea at one vendor.
Went by my local specialized lbs today. They didn't have any Teros, couldn't get any Teros, never had any Teros, and probably wouldn't get any til next year was his guess. In a town of 100k, you'd think supply wouldn't be a problem. He said that was the condition with most bikes, supply and demand issues. Or we don't make our own stuff anymore...
If you are in Lawrence per your profile, looks like the nearest in stock is >50 miles away. All sizes of Tero 5.0 are currently available for order from the Specialized website. 3.0 and 3.0 stepthru are both out of stock in all sizes. You could try to place a tero in your cart and see if the option exists to have it sent to your LBS.
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