Specialized Turbo Creo 28mph Electric Road Bike

[bazzapage]

If you compare to the Roubaix line, the Comp will be without carbon wheels.
For me the big factor would be if the Comp comes with Di2.
After having Di2 on my Roubaix, I can't see going back to the old mechanical version.

Fairly sure the Comp would do away with Di2. Electronic shifting adds a lot of cost and the Comp will be about hitting some more budget-friendly numbers. I imagine it will be mechanical 105 with an SLX-11 rear (M7000).
Don't forget how product marketing works. The price difference will be such that it's 'only' $2500 up to the Expert, and you get carbon wheels, a better grade of carbon frame, AND Di2... come on, you know you want to...it's so much better value....

 

[rob_s]

My thoughts exactly

 

[Guitar dave]

Has anyone ridden one of these yet?

 

[Johnny]

FYI I have reviewed this bike. https://electricbikesnz.com/2019/07/25/specialized-creo-sl-expert-evo/
My son has also reviewed it and I believe came to similar conclusions - it's a darn good bike.

Great review.

This is the only road ebike I would consider to be honest. They hit everything right (except price ).

 

[rob_s]

Leaked details from this site: https://translate.google.com/transl...6-specialized-turbo-creo-comp-e5/&prev=search

Specifications Specialized Turbo Creo SL COMP E5:

• Set: Specialized E5 Aluminum
• Gear: 1x11 Speed
• Future Shock 1.5
• Brakes: Shimano GRX810 hydraulic Disc.
• Rear derailleur Shimano RX812 GX 11 speed
• 11-42t cassette 11 speed.
• Wheel DTR470 Disc
• Tires: Turbo Pro 28mm
• Crankset: Praxis M30 46T 110ø
• Saddle: Specialized Power
• Saddle stick: S-Works FACT Carbon
• Engine: Specialized SL 1.1
• Battery: Specialized SL1-320 320Wh 48V.

 

[Guitar dave]

Still waiting for my dealer to get one in... with the carbon wheels and compared to other e-road bikes this is starting to seem like a reasonable price $9k...
I just don’t see much available in class 3. I would like to try a class 3 Fazua but no idea if anyone will have one.
I am starting to wish I owned a bike company. I would tell folks what is coming and when, with meaningful details!

 

[Scott Adams]

I've been riding an eRoad bike for a few years and it is my opinion based on the 5k or more miles I have ridden that it takes at least 500w to maintain 28mph on level ground with no wind in either direction. Plus you also have to have a big enough gear to be able to get there. Looks like at least a 48t on the Cleo which with an 11t is about a 118" gear which you will be spinning out on at that speed. Also you will be eating wh's and these manufacturers versions have pretty small batteries.

Up to 28 mph means you can readily cruise at 26 mph in reality.

Riding at 26 mph only eats 240 battery watts (using my height and weight and using the drops) according to Kreuzotter.de - 390 watts total minus 150 watts from the rider. Factor in some inefficiencies and I could still cruise for about an hour at that speed with the Creo's 320 Wh battery, longer with the extra battery.

The chainring can be upgraded for faster riders, I did this on a Levo with a BadAss box.

 

[ROJA]

Am I off or is that battery size a complete deal breaker? My Turbo X (hub drive) has a 691 Wh battery (over 2x the size of this one) and realistic range at Eco60 (60% assist) is roughly 30 miles (cruising at 26-27 mph and pedaling hard).

You would be hard pressed to get 20 miles out of this bike at 26 mph (unless it is somehow drastically more efficient).

 

[rob_s]

To me, the battery size is just right.
My Turbo Vado has 420 Wh and on eco (30% assist) I get well over 90klm with no problem.
My average speed is about 22kl/h.
If you want to go at TDF speeds and are not a TDF rider, this is probably not the bike for you.
It's designed to give a LITTLE assist. Not be a commuter powerhouse.
Perfect battery size and assist capabilities for my tastes.

 

[rob_s]

Specs on the Comp version from: http://www.jensencykler.com/shop/171-specialized-elcykel/10965-specialized-turbo-creo-comp-evo/

Specifikationer Specialized Turbo Creo SL COMP CARBON:

• Stel: Carbon FACT 11r
• Gear: 1x11 Speed
• Future Shock 1.5
• Bremser: Shimano GRX810 hydraulisk Disc.
• Bagskifter Shimano RX812 GX 11 speed
• 11-42t cassette 11 speed.
• Hjul DTR470 Disc
• Dæk: Pathfinder 38mm
• Kranksæt: Praxis M30 46T 110ø
• Sadel: Specialized Power
• Sadelpind: Dropper Post 50mm
• Motor: Specialized SL 1.1
• Batteri: Specialized SL1-320 320Wh 48V.

 

[PaD]

Specs on the Comp version from: http://www.jensencykler.com/shop/171-specialized-elcykel/10965-specialized-turbo-creo-comp-evo/

Specifikationer Specialized Turbo Creo SL COMP CARBON:

• Stel: Carbon FACT 11r
• Gear: 1x11 Speed
• Future Shock 1.5
• Bremser: Shimano GRX810 hydraulisk Disc.
• Bagskifter Shimano RX812 GX 11 speed
• 11-42t cassette 11 speed.
• Hjul DTR470 Disc
• Dæk: Pathfinder 38mm
• Kranksæt: Praxis M30 46T 110ø
• Sadel: Specialized Power
• Sadelpind: Dropper Post 50mm
• Motor: Specialized SL 1.1
• Batteri: Specialized SL1-320 320Wh 48V.

Looks like they’re guessing a bit at that site.
The specs seem to differ from what I read on Specialized’s US site. Could be be the Creo SL Expert Evo . There is no Comp on Specialized’s website.

Turbo Creo - Specialized

www.specialized.com

And I would be very surprised if they will sell us an Expert EVO for DKK 48,000:-. It’s listed at US $9,000 and just looking at the exchange rate that would be about 60,000 in Danish Kronor.

 

[rob_s]

I think you missed the point of the post. The details of the Creo comp are not on the US site or most others. The details have not been officially released by specialized regarding the Comp and the Aluminum E5 models.

 

[PaD]

I think you missed the point of the post. The details of the Creo comp are not on the US site or most others. The details have not been officially released by specialized regarding the Comp and the Aluminum E5 models.

I sure missed the point
Thanx.
Now I’d better get some sleep.

 

[PaD]

After my stupid comment about Danish ad for Creo Comp I’m still brave enough to ask if anyone would dare to estimated the weight of the Comp EVO.

(there is a painkiller in Sweden called Treo Comp )

 

[rob_s]

Probably similar difference between the standard and evo versions as the Expert/Comp.
I expect the shifters and other parts on the comp won't be much heavier than the Expert so the only real difference would be the wheels
Between standard and comp the difference would mainly be the dropper post which is 410g - not sure what the road seat post would weigh.

 

[MRE]

Great review.

This is the only road ebike I would consider to be honest. They hit everything right (except price ).

Just saw the TREK Domane+ e-road bike and though I'm a Specialized fan, the Domaine+ seems to have the Creo beat: integrated lights, bigger motor, bigger battery.

 

[MikeDee]

Just saw the TREK Domane+ e-road bike and though I'm a Specialized fan, the Domaine+ seems to have the Creo beat: integrated lights, bigger motor, bigger battery.

Maybe, but that bike is a lot heavier, probably doesn't handle as well because of that, and the motor has a lot of drag if you have to pedal it unpowered. I guess it depends on how much power you really need. On my Orbea Gain, range, not power, is the issue for me, and the Creo is similar to it.

 

[rob_s]

Specs look more like the Creo Comp. Not electronic shifting and no carbon wheel set.
So the price is similar for the Specialized Carbon Comp compared to the Domane.
As MikeDee stated, it's a preference. I would not say one is better than the other. Just different.

 

[MRE]

Maybe, but that bike is a lot heavier, probably doesn't handle as well because of that, and the motor has a lot of drag if you have to pedal it unpowered. I guess it depends on how much power you really need. On my Orbea Gain, range, not power, is the issue for me, and the Creo is similar to it.

Thanks. I have two 2015 basic Turbos and they have a bigger motor and battery (also a LOT heavier) and i wonder how the Creo (hopefully an aluminum model) will handle all my hills.

 

[rob_s]

Yes, I'm anxious to find that out as well. I have a Vado 3.
I'm hoping the power will be enough.
I expect the Creo will not have the low RPM torque but when peddling at 80 RPM, I hope the power is similar.
They both are supposed to deliver similar power at a higher RPM. 250 watts for the Vado and 240 for the Creo.
I think the difference will be the Creo requires YOU to provide 240 watts in order to get the full motor power. Not sure if I interpret the specs correctly. Maybe you only need to deliver 120 watts to get full power.
Either way, it's a long way from just turning over the peddles in full turbo mode on the Vado.