Personally I feel that is unfair to state so - there seem to be 10 owners so far or did I miss the 6990 waiting for their bikes? Nobody is abused or criticised for donating to Sondors, it was the Owners Group that was set up behind closed doors, ejecting people who asked questions, all wooden doors and secrecy - as are the shipping details, no of bikes shipped although their FB page says all bikes are now made, just not shipped etc yawn. Any Sondors owner is as welcome as the next person to discuss and engage but there are only 5-10 that I know of, seems to be a rollout of 10 bikes, any other estimates? afaik court has been very open and very fair, it is Ivars who has every reason to keep matters shut and to run his business akin to a religious cult.