New year, new cargo ebike

[Marcela]

I rock a set of studs for winter comutting, the Como would work great with some 45nrth or Schwalbe Ice Spiker's. Studded tires aren't cheap but they last a really long time in my experience.

Yep, love the Tern, just wish it was a class 3. Excited to try the new gen 2 HSD S11 with the more powerful smart system performance motor. If you're not going to haul a person the HSD is kind of like a Goldilocks solution. Smaller footprint but big cargo capability and available in class 3 which is really nice for urban riding.

This guy liked the Tern and Globe which were real close on his metrics and eventually picked the Tern. Goat watching is a bonus. I'll have to look at the new Tern. I like the Globe being torque sensing and having a local dealer. I may have to do some studded tires sometime just for the experience.

 

[Brendon@OEB]

This guy liked the Tern and Globe which were real close on his metrics and eventually picked the Tern. Goat watching is a bonus. I'll have to look at the new Tern. I like the Globe being torque sensing and having a local dealer. I may have to do some studded tires sometime just for the experience.

Yuba Spicy Curry Speed is another class 3 cargo bike, also there's some deals out there with R&M bikes, Multicharger and Load models specifically! I've seen and ridden the Globe, it's fine for the price point but in cargo land I think mid drive bikes are the way to go IMO!

 

[spokewrench]

I think the video shows a lack of experience. He's thrilled about the lightness of the Quick Haul. Lightness would have great showroom appeal, and if there weren't important tradeoffs, there would be other light cargo bikes. With pushbikes, it has been found that bike weight makes almost no difference in travel time. Bike weight is a relatively small part of gross weight, and by the time you get to 15 mph, the big problem is air drag.

He won't consider Class 2 because he wants 28mph to share the road with cars. If they're going 28 mph, that could be much better than 20 mph. It won't matter so much if they're coming up at 60.

An upright bicyclist hits a lot of air drag at 28. Rolling resistance would increase the requirement to about 900 watts. None of those Class 3 bikes claims to be that powerful, and 900 watts won't hold 28 on rough pavement or hills. His battery might not get him to town and back at 900 watts. At 700 watts, the Globe Haul might flirt with 28 if he pedaled hard.

My first ebike was advertised at 750 watts but put only 500 on the wheel. Another controller doubled it to 1000 mechanical watts. It would quickly take me to 24 mph, that motor's limit on 48 volts. That's almost like Class 3, and the throttle would hold that speed if I stopped pedaling. I exceed 20 only a few seconds per week, to get as far as possible on a stretch of narrow 35 mph road before I spot overtaking traffic in my big, flat mirror. I make my bikes as stable as possible, but I'm still sitting high on a bike with a short wheelbase and a high center of mass, unlike a road motorcycle. Higher speeds increase the risk of being thrown on my head. They also increase the risk of a crash because a driver didn't notice me in time.

I love the seat tube of the HSD. It leans back even farther than my Abound for a more comfortable, more stable ride with better leg use.

He loved the Abound but dismissed it because it's not Class 3. Mine takes me to 22 pretty fast on flat ground and 20 uphill. Riding daily almost 3 years, I'd wanted to upgrade to Class 3 until I bought the Abound. Now I think a good Class 2 is in practical terms as good, and it's probably safer not to flirt with another 6 mph.

 

[Rome]

R&M is cool. I can't picture myself paying $10k + accessories. If you have the cash by all means buy this one.
As for me I have a 4x4 1995 Toyota Tacoma.
Sometimes when I drive it to home depot younger people will ask if I want to sell it.
Answer is not for sale.

 

[Rome]

My Toyota. Priceless.
Happy hunting for a cargo ebike. I'm still reliant on internal combustion engine.
I am an avid biker two wheels to get my thrills.
I had a 4x4 FX Ford F150 that was State issued. But had to return it. Dang I miss that truck

 

[Marcela]

Yuba Spicy Curry Speed is another class 3 cargo bike, also there's some deals out there with R&M bikes, Multicharger and Load models specifically! I've seen and ridden the Globe, it's fine for the price point but in cargo land I think mid drive bikes are the way to go IMO!

You ever ride a ubco? I thought about one of those if I could get away with not having to register or insure it. Maybe put some pseudo pedals on it Those R&M's are nice but pricey. They're like the bmw. In the real world stuff happens and in my world there better be a dealer around to deal with it

 

[m@Robertson]

Serious question, other than businesses do any other cyclists buy cargo bikes and why, I can imagine for camping and touring they would be good

There is a class of use referenced in the cargo bike community as an 'auto replacement' and that covers quite a bit.

You can die old and fat, or just old. Riding a bike as a part of your daily life helps ensure the latter.

 

[Brendon@OEB]

You ever ride a ubco? I thought about one of those if I could get away with not having to register or insure it. Maybe put some pseudo pedals on it Those R&M's are nice but pricey. They're like the bmw. In the real world stuff happens and in my world there better be a dealer around to deal with it

Never ridden an Ubco, at that point I'll just throw a leg over the KTM