My WW Custom Design / Build Diary

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Yes - Pushkar now has / will soon have the ability to 3d print cases and he has a US battery source for custom packs.
duuuuuuuude... why you do this to me ? :)

basically all packs on hydra and helios are made in US. every single one of them.
We will limit onboard charging to 5A (battery inside the down tube) just for thermal reasons.
External charging will be up to 10A. The battery itself has a high amp charge port for that.
 
UPDATE 2 - Component List (Draft)
Edit: Fixed Errors 4/3/21

Building the list took longer than I expected especially since I chose Kindernay over Rohloff. Feedback is welcome.

GroupingComponentManufacturerNotes
FramesetFrameWW Custom TI Frame Based on Salsa Blackborow GX Eagle Geometry
ForkManitou Mastodon Pro Ext 100mm (15mm x 150mm axle)Accommodate 26'x4' to 26'x5' tires
Front / Rear FendersWW Custom FendersAccommodate 26'x4' to 26'x5' tires
Trailer MountResearch Hitch Type to Carrier
SeatSaddleErgon ST Core Prime S/M
Seat PostKinekt 3.1 Carbon Fiber Seat Post
Seat CollarReview OptionsGoal is Theft Prevention and Easy Adjust
HeadsetHandlebarCruiser Handlebar - Review OptionsUpright Position / Pedal Forward
StemKinekt Suspension StemOverkill???
HeadsetIntegrated Headset - Review Options1 1/8" Head Tube
GripsErgon GP 1 to 5 - Review OptionsLeaning GP2
Misc.Bar Plugs, Top Cap, Spacers
DrivetrainMotorBafang Ultra with Archon X1 controller 1000W
DisplayWW Custom Large Display
BatteryCustom 52V 29ah Battery Case and Samsung 21700 50e v2 Cell Pack
2nd BatteryAbility to Add a Rack Battery in the FutureOverkill???
BeltGates Belt Drive Black - Belt Length?
Rear SprocketGates CDX EXP - Size?
Rear HubKindernay XIV Fatbike 197/12 CL (216mm/203mm) (32h) (16t)Issue Using 197/12 with Gates Drive?
ShifterReview OptionsGoal Single Shifter on Drive Side
ThrottleMount Drive Side
CranksetCrank SprocketGates CDX EXP - Size?
CrankWW Carbon 165mm
PedalsCrankbrothers Stamp 2 or Shimano PD-M8040Leaning Shimano
BrakesBrakesDominion A4, Quad PistonRegular / SFL Lever Differences?
Rear DiscMagura MDR-C CL 203mm or 180mm
Front DiscMagura MDR-C CL 203mm
WheelsetRear Hub & SprocketSee Drivetrain
Rear Rim
26" H.E.D Cycling B.A.D (12x197mm) (85mm) (32h)
SpokesBerd Black PolyLight Spokes
Tire26"x4" Dillinger 4 or Kenda Juggernaut Pro 26"x4.5"
Front HubOnyx FAT ISO-150/15mm CL Thru-Bolt (32h)Powder Coat - Black Aura, Clear or Black Widget?
Front Rim26" H.E.D Cycling B.A.D (15x150mm) (85mm) (32h)
SpokesBerd Black PolyLight Spokes
Tire26x4 Dillinger 4 or Kenda Juggernaut Pro 26x4.5
Misc.Reflectors, Tubes, Stems, Nipples
LightsFront LightWired in Addition with Lezyne 1800iReview Options - Wired
Rear LightWired Rack Mounted in Addition with Lezyne KTVReview Options - Rear Light with Braking
Aux Power(2) 5w 3-Pin Auxiliary Power, Future Expansion (i.e. Horn)
USB PowerCockpit Phone Charging
AccessoriesHorn / BellLocate on Non-Drive Side
Lock(s) and/or Alarm?Review OptionsLocation Seat Tube
GPS TrackerWW - Research Details
ChargerWW 10A Charger
Chain GuardBelt GuardOnly for Aesthetics
KickstandCenter Stand - Review Options
Rear RackWW Custom TI Rear Rack, Bolt
Front RackReview Options, Bolt
Rear Rack Pannier BagReview Options
HelmetReview Options
Bottle CageReview OptionsLocation Down Tube
Cables/HousingCables/HousingBrakes, Display, Kindernay, Lights, Power, Throttle, Misc.
Misc.Cable Guides/Clamps

More to Follow.
Michael
 
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UPDATE 2 - Component List (Draft)

Building the list took longer than I expected especially since I chose Kindernay over Rohloff. Feedback is welcome.

GroupingComponentManufacturerNotes
FramesetFrameWW Custom TI Frame Based on Salsa Blackborow GX Eagle Geometry
ForkManitou Mastodon Pro Ext 100mm (15mm x 150mm axle)Accommodate 26'x4' to 26'x5' tires
Front / Rear FendersWW Custom FendersAccommodate 26'x4' to 26'x5' tires
Trailer MountResearch Hitch Type to Carrier
SeatSaddleErgon ST Core Prime S/M
Seat PostKinekt 3.1 Carbon Fiber Seat Post
Seat CollarReview OptionsGoal is Theft Prevention and Easy Adjust
HeadsetHandlebarCruiser Handlebar - Review OptionsUpright Position / Pedal Forward
StemKinekt Suspension StemOverkill???
HeadsetIntegrated Headset - Review Options1 1/8" Head Tube
GripsErgon GP 1 to 5 - Review OptionsLeaning GP2
Misc.Bar Plugs, Top Cap, Spacers
DrivetrainMotorBafang Ultra with Archon X1 controller 1000W
DisplayWW Custom Large Display
BatteryCustom 52V 29ah Battery Case and Samsung 21700 50e v2 Cell Pack
2nd BatteryAbility to Add a Rack Battery in the FutureOverkill???
BeltGates Belt Drive Black - Belt Length?
Rear SprocketGates CDX EXP - Size?
Rear HubKindernay XIV Fatbike 190/10 CL (216mm/203mm) (32h) (16t)Issue Using 190/10 with Gates Drive?
ShifterReview OptionsGoal Single Shifter on Drive Side
ThrottleMount Drive Side
CranksetCrank SprocketGates CDX EXP - Size?
CrankWW Carbon 165mm
PedalsCrankbrothers Stamp 2 or Shimano PD-M8040Leaning Shimano
BrakesBrakesDominion A4, Quad PistonRegular / SFL Lever Differences?
Rear DiscMagura MDR-C CL 203mm or 180mm
Front DiscMagura MDR-C CL 203mm
WheelsetRear Hub & SprocketSee Drivetrain
Rear Rim26" H.E.D Cycling B.A.D (12x177mm???) (85mm) (32h)OEM Size Conflicts with Kindernay 190/10 Hub
SpokesBerd Black PolyLight Spokes
Tire26"x4" Dillinger 4 or Kenda Juggernaut Pro 26"x4.5"
Front HubOnyx FAT ISO-150/15mm CL Thru-Bolt (32h)Powder Coat - Black Aura, Clear or Black Widget?
Front Rim26" H.E.D Cycling B.A.D (15x150mm) (85mm) (32h)
SpokesBerd Black PolyLight Spokes
Tire26x4 Dillinger 4 or Kenda Juggernaut Pro 26x4.5
Misc.Reflectors, Tubes, Stems, Nipples
LightsFront LightWired in Addition with Lezyne 1800iReview Options - Wired
Rear LightWired Rack Mounted in Addition with Lezyne KTVReview Options - Rear Light with Braking
Aux Power(2) 5w 3-Pin Auxiliary Power, Future Expansion (i.e. Horn)
USB PowerCockpit Phone Charging
AccessoriesHorn / BellLocate on Non-Drive Side
Lock(s) and/or Alarm?Review OptionsLocation Seat Tube
GPS TrackerWW - Research Details
ChargerWW 10A Charger
Chain GuardBelt GuardOnly for Aesthetics
KickstandCenter Stand - Review Options
Rear RackWW Custom TI Rear Rack, Bolt
Front RackReview Options, Bolt
Rear Rack Pannier BagReview Options
HelmetReview Options
Bottle CageReview OptionsLocation Down Tube
Cables/HousingCables/HousingBrakes, Display, Kindernay, Lights, Power, Throttle, Misc.
Misc.Cable Guides/Clamps

More to Follow.
Michael
This is an awesome build. Will you be posting how much everything will cost?
 
I have two names in mind - "The Fremont" or "Overkill".
'They' say that many times a good investment is one where you get your principal back. :) You could ride this bike for a couple years and probably sell it for what it cost you ... so free ride and experience for two years. Then you could build another one with improvements from what you learned. 👍👍
 
'They' say that many times a good investment is one where you get your principal back. :) You could ride this bike for a couple years and probably sell it for what it cost you ... so free ride and experience for two years. Then you could build another one with improvements from what you learned. 👍👍
Why did you plant that seed??? :) I take your point and agree or at least hope it will hold value.
 
UPDATE 2 - Component List (Draft)

Building the list took longer than I expected especially since I chose Kindernay over Rohloff. Feedback is welcome.

GroupingComponentManufacturerNotes
FramesetFrameWW Custom TI Frame Based on Salsa Blackborow GX Eagle Geometry
ForkManitou Mastodon Pro Ext 100mm (15mm x 150mm axle)Accommodate 26'x4' to 26'x5' tires
Front / Rear FendersWW Custom FendersAccommodate 26'x4' to 26'x5' tires
Trailer MountResearch Hitch Type to Carrier
SeatSaddleErgon ST Core Prime S/M
Seat PostKinekt 3.1 Carbon Fiber Seat Post
Seat CollarReview OptionsGoal is Theft Prevention and Easy Adjust
HeadsetHandlebarCruiser Handlebar - Review OptionsUpright Position / Pedal Forward
StemKinekt Suspension StemOverkill???
HeadsetIntegrated Headset - Review Options1 1/8" Head Tube
GripsErgon GP 1 to 5 - Review OptionsLeaning GP2
Misc.Bar Plugs, Top Cap, Spacers
DrivetrainMotorBafang Ultra with Archon X1 controller 1000W
DisplayWW Custom Large Display
BatteryCustom 52V 29ah Battery Case and Samsung 21700 50e v2 Cell Pack
2nd BatteryAbility to Add a Rack Battery in the FutureOverkill???
BeltGates Belt Drive Black - Belt Length?
Rear SprocketGates CDX EXP - Size?
Rear HubKindernay XIV Fatbike 190/10 CL (216mm/203mm) (32h) (16t)Issue Using 190/10 with Gates Drive?
ShifterReview OptionsGoal Single Shifter on Drive Side
ThrottleMount Drive Side
CranksetCrank SprocketGates CDX EXP - Size?
CrankWW Carbon 165mm
PedalsCrankbrothers Stamp 2 or Shimano PD-M8040Leaning Shimano
BrakesBrakesDominion A4, Quad PistonRegular / SFL Lever Differences?
Rear DiscMagura MDR-C CL 203mm or 180mm
Front DiscMagura MDR-C CL 203mm
WheelsetRear Hub & SprocketSee Drivetrain
Rear Rim26" H.E.D Cycling B.A.D (12x177mm???) (85mm) (32h)OEM Size Conflicts with Kindernay 190/10 Hub
SpokesBerd Black PolyLight Spokes
Tire26"x4" Dillinger 4 or Kenda Juggernaut Pro 26"x4.5"
Front HubOnyx FAT ISO-150/15mm CL Thru-Bolt (32h)Powder Coat - Black Aura, Clear or Black Widget?
Front Rim26" H.E.D Cycling B.A.D (15x150mm) (85mm) (32h)
SpokesBerd Black PolyLight Spokes
Tire26x4 Dillinger 4 or Kenda Juggernaut Pro 26x4.5
Misc.Reflectors, Tubes, Stems, Nipples
LightsFront LightWired in Addition with Lezyne 1800iReview Options - Wired
Rear LightWired Rack Mounted in Addition with Lezyne KTVReview Options - Rear Light with Braking
Aux Power(2) 5w 3-Pin Auxiliary Power, Future Expansion (i.e. Horn)
USB PowerCockpit Phone Charging
AccessoriesHorn / BellLocate on Non-Drive Side
Lock(s) and/or Alarm?Review OptionsLocation Seat Tube
GPS TrackerWW - Research Details
ChargerWW 10A Charger
Chain GuardBelt GuardOnly for Aesthetics
KickstandCenter Stand - Review Options
Rear RackWW Custom TI Rear Rack, Bolt
Front RackReview Options, Bolt
Rear Rack Pannier BagReview Options
HelmetReview Options
Bottle CageReview OptionsLocation Down Tube
Cables/HousingCables/HousingBrakes, Display, Kindernay, Lights, Power, Throttle, Misc.
Misc.Cable Guides/Clamps

More to Follow.
Michael
I would buy this bike!
 
It occurs to my not enough coffee yet brain that this sort of bike could be quite useful to the 'hunting bike' crowd with the appropriate drive train. As well as the bike camping folks. Or touring as well. There's definitely a market. You might have to ship it however to get one sold.
 
It occurs to my not enough coffee yet brain that this sort of bike could be quite useful to the 'hunting bike' crowd with the appropriate drive train. As well as the bike camping folks. Or touring as well. There's definitely a market. You might have to ship it however to get one sold.
I don’t hunt but I'm curious your opinion on the appropriate drive train for this activity?
 
I don’t hunt but I'm curious your opinion on the appropriate drive train for this activity?
Well .... it depends. Depends if you are willing to spend the big bucks for the IGH. Depends if you think one drive train or another would affect resale if reselling is anything to you. Depends on how you think regarding repair and upkeep. Me, I'm not a fan of IGHs just because I know I can't work on them and I don't really know much about them and I'm cheap that way. And of course it depends on how you are going to use the bike. If I WAS all hot for an IGH bike ... Pushkar is the only one I'd buy such from. 👍
 
This will be my first IGH. After endless research on them, I selected this route with the Gates Drive for the easy cleaning and I can just hose off the mud, never adjust a derailleur again, and how they look is a plus. So far, my only wishy-washy decision was on the Kindernay. Pushkar did a good pro / con comparison to Rohloff for me but I really love the Rohloff looks. The Kindernay dual shifters is a downer too. I really want my shifting on the drive side only.
 
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