MOPED TYPE EBIKES ARE THEY ALL SAME

The leather washers on the fenders match the tires and it has a place for coffee.
 

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Very good, some 36 volt motors are very torquey and 20 mph checks the boxes for me. Whos the Puppy?
That little three-speed has 85Nm which is just fine for a mid-drive. I put the pup in just for fun. When he could fit in one hand he was on one of his first walks. He saw me ridding 30 meters away and started wagging and dancing like crazy. So I went over. I picked him up, belly up, gave him a hug and patted his belly as he wiggled and then relaxed. Then I very slowly set him down. He leapt into my arms again. This continued a few times. Now when ever I see him he has to jump all over me and get his belly pet. His name is Bodie. One IGH is affordable, has classic lines, and is a Nexus 7. It is the Public V7i. The 'i' is for internal. Here is one in British Racing Green for Christmas.
 

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A percentage of people with strong opinions about electric bikes could not identify one if it was in front of them. They would not know how it works or how to ride one.
It's getting hard to identify an electric bike that looks non electric. The bottle batteries that look like water bottles along with the light frames and thin tires complete the deception. I see these bikes in the bike club I ride with and they look like race bikes. The overall purpose of this type ebike is to look like your on a non ebike and doing all the work, not the battery. Alot to spend to hide the real source of power. You can spend much less money and go just as far, just as fast, but then everyone will know you have a battery onboard. For me, that's fine. Lol
 
Have you tried the "weldless" battery building kits? If I remember correctly Micah has been promoting those things. Going to check in a bit to see what His take is on those things now and can you recommend a good kit for crimp connectors( have no luck with a solder gun)
I have them all. Micah is a friend. I introduced him to Vruzend. I’ve got hundreds of their kit parts. And N.E.S.E kits too. 2 welders, pack tester, and more…

Solder gun types are a funky choice. Get a decent brand name stick type, a YouTube video, and a practice kit. I’m a retired horticulture guy. I did as I suggested and can do a decent solder job. I dislike kits and crimpers. One simple error with building a poof! Unless you’re going to build multiple batteries the saving isn’t there. Even then getting to the quality levels of a professional builder is a protracted process AND expensive.
 
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If you want a Vruzend kit send me a PM. I'll sell for half of any listed price.
That is very naughty of you (cuz we both know Vruzend is garbahhhhhge :D )

So much negativity in this thread. You would think that ebikers, who got a dose of hatred from analog cyclists for years and still have some prejudice to overcome - would be the last ones to be narrow-minded prudes about what other people ride. Nope.

Bring on the Super 73's! I hope they and their clones continue to sell out their entire stock. Every urban mobility bike is one less car. And one less internal combustion engine. Not everyone wants to be a cyclist and we have no business shoving our beliefs down other people's throats. People who, by the way, don't harm anyone else one bit by not pedaling. All the vitriol is just all soiled underwear and bruised ego.
 
I agree. All this stuff about less expensive ebikes being dangerous and prone to constant breakdowns is just not always true. Of course there are going to be mechanical problems from time to time, but if a rider keeps up on maintenence and checks it over before riding it, the problems are minor. The hub motors on these bikes are really dependable as are the batteries if not overheated or over used. Great transportation and fantastic fun and exercise!.
 
They are like musical instruments. It is a matter of taste. If you are good with a $49 guitar from Target, or a $3 bottle of wine, cool.
 
That is very naughty of you (cuz we both know Vruzend is garbahhhhhge :D )
Well, there are those that would argue... then there are those that are just smarter than us.
I'd suggest homebuilt batteries are ALL a bad idea.
 
They are like musical instruments. It is a matter of taste. If you are good with a $49 guitar from Target, or a $3 bottle of wine, cool.
Bad analogy. My bike runs perfect. Smooth, fast and with multi suspension points, suspension seat and balloon tires, this bike rides comfortable as hell. So, what more would anyone want from an ebike? OK, my battery is not hidden to look like a water bottle. Not important. I have this bike tuned by pros every winter, and now 2.5 years later, not one problem. Not bad for $1200.00!
 
They are like musical instruments. It is a matter of taste. If you are good with a $49 guitar from Target, or a $3 bottle of wine, cool.
I agree with PedalUma and think that it is a very relevant analogy. If someone doesn’t appreciate the difference between a $49 guitar and a Custom Shop Martin for example, then the Martin would be a waste of money. If someone does appreciate the difference, they will never be happy with the $49 guitar. Same for the wine. Of course, these are extremes, but extremes are often used to prove a point.

That said, once you spend a little time with the Martin, you are unlikely to want anything less again and it’s hard to go back. I suggest, (only a suggestion), that if you want to stay happy with an inexpensive bike, don’t test ride a more expensive bike, and don’t read or watch any reviews. Happiness is more about enjoying what you have than wanting what you don’t, (again, only an opinion).

In the words of Theodore Roosevelt, “Comparison is the thief of joy.”
 
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That is right @Djangodog! If you have a dog it is okay to say, "You're the best doggie in the whole world." When I started I couldn't afford the bike I wanted, so I started making them the way I wanted. I screwed up a lot. And learned better. The cost of tuition was high but worth it. I drilled a Vida low step this morning for the display wire.
 

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