tomjasz
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$1200 frame. Ouch!
MOPED TYPE EBIKES ARE THEY ALL SAME
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J.R.
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We've been doing this for a long time. That's no guarantee everything will be safe, but we've seen all the horror stories, we look for them to learn. The past 6 months I've read at least 100 stories of ebike battery fires. With greater adoption of ebikes there has been a shocking rise in accidents. The stories about apartment dweller's ebike fires are the scariest.
Homemade e-bike project catches fire, destroys home
HAMPSTEAD, Md. (BRAIN) — Maryland fire investigators say a 25-year-old man assembling a do-it-yourself e-bike caused a fire that destroyed a house.No one was injured in the fire, which started Sunday afternoon. According to the Maryland State Fire Marshal, Robert Floto was loading lithium-ion...
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This one stored next to a heater.
I'm convinced buying from the "lowest bidder" is a big mistake. Unfortunately cheap is often cheap for a reason
A London council has called on the government to ban the sale of substandard e-bike chargers.
I can see the day when it will be illegal to import and sell these cheap, sub standard ebikes and batteries.
The battery is that long square thing under the seat behind the post. Takes 6 hrs to charge. I get 50 miles on it with hills using assist. I only use the throttle leaving stop lights. Top speed 28. Great bike. Will take any steep streets. I keep mine on the road and added suspension seat post, Schwalbe BIg Ben's tires, and Jones Bike double S handlebars.Went from mtb to comfy cruiser with big seat. Nice ride.
This is the same bike after I converted it into a cruiser. It's lit up for night rides. My gf has the same brand with a lot of lights for the night. No battery overheating ever or any other problems so far. Flawless and fun. Hard to beat at that price.
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Why would I hide it? From who and for what reason? It's sitting right there under the seat. Big and beautiful! Keep them out of 90 plus temps and they stay happy and run cool.
tomjasz
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You miss the point…
tomjasz
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To funny. That was my point. Another couple hundred in improvements and it’s no longer a $1300 budget bike. A $1200 frame to improve on. Whatever…
fooferdoggie
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you have not saved thousands. you still have a bike with low quality parts. as much as you are riding you better be checking all those unsealed bearings too those parts then to not hold up in the long run. . I can get up this hill with 350 watts.
Enlighten me
No matter what bike I bought I would have made those same upgrades. Not a big amount at all. New seat, Scwalbe tires, suspension seat post, raised swoopback double handlebars, rear camera, and lights. I would have added that to any ebike because they don't sell any of it stock on ebikes. I could have kept the bike the way I got it, a mtb but I chose to go for comfort and power over a hidden battery to pretend I'm a roadie in spandex. I could have spent more and got a lighter bike, but who cares if you have enough power? This thing is 68 lbs and handles great.
tomjasz
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Here’s the thing. Years of customer support and 100s’ of calls and emails from budget bike buyers that were sorely dissapionted when their sub $1300 bike batteries gave up the ghost after a year or couldn’t find replacement parts withou5 spendy upgrades. Or tried to ride daily 365 and found that 1k more and they’d have far more reliability. Dude I’m thrilled you found a great bike for you, but I think you’re the odd man out. A heavy daily commuter, in my opinion, will soon be dissapionted. harryS and riders with his repair and technical acumen do well with budget bikes, but you guys aren’t the general market. N00bs read this and the repairs and troubleshooting are out of their skill set, leaving them with a $1200 loss. I’m not criticizing your choice just wanting those expecting support and trouble free service to understand th3 reality of low priced factory direct eBikes. YOU are your own local bike shop. And most LBS that sell and service the brands the sell won’t touch these bikes. And the battery build quality is highly questionable. I expect enough fire will sooner or later eliminate these $200-$300 batteries. I know they sell them for more but th3 battery builds use non3 of th3 current industry safety standards.
A First quality conversion kit, dealer pricing is near the finished ebike price. My scratch buil$ with wholesale sourced parts and deep discount quality components has sucked up over $2000 USD. 1/5 of which was just a battery.
again, I’m thrilled you’re happy, just hate to see the masses fall for the ”deal”.
A First quality conversion kit, dealer pricing is near the finished ebike price. My scratch buil$ with wholesale sourced parts and deep discount quality components has sucked up over $2000 USD. 1/5 of which was just a battery.
again, I’m thrilled you’re happy, just hate to see the masses fall for the ”deal”.
My replacement battery will be around $500.00 not 2. I have been running this battery for 2.5 years now, no problems. When it fails I'll ship it to Tfl Power in S. Cal to be rebuilt. They use all Samsung and LG parts. Cost will be about half of new and probably last longer than a new one. Yes, my bike is well made. Customer support with Ecotric is good. They return emails by next day. They are in Oakland, Ca.not overseas. I ride alot and hit potholes etc and see no cracks or broken welds. The frame is solid. The motor runs whisper quiet and fast. I take care of it. It has hydrolic disk brakes front and rear and I clean the rotors after every ride, along with the suspension tubes. Oil the seat suspension and replace brake pads when needed and clean and lube the chain. Come winter I spend $100.00 at a local bike shop for a complete tuneup and brake bleeding. Small investment to ride all summer. So, bottom line is this. Yes, you can get a good low cost ebike that holds up well.Just be ready to buy better tires and seat for it. I ride with a bike club somtimes and see people riding in pain and discomfort on bikes with small hard seats and no suspension. Makes no sense to go 25 miles in pain.I ride in comfort on Schwalbe Balloon tires with double lining. Going on 3 years, not one flat! So, it's whatever makes you comfortable with ebikes. Takes very little to make big upgrades for comfort and dependability. You can spend a ton of money if ya want. Why would ya? Just shop smart.
ElevenAD
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if your talking about that Onyx in the picture heck no, those pedals are usless! The bike weighs a ton and has no gears!
My girlfriend has a Peacedove and has loved the thing for 2 years. It's just 350 watts but she only weighs 120 lbs and it climbs big hills easily. The drawback to that bike is no front suspension or Lcd control screen. It also only has disk brakes on one wheel. She is selling her's come spring and buying the Ecotric Leopard. It has 500 watts, front suspension, dual disk brakes, and lcd screen like mine. Really nice bike for $850.00. We will swap out the tires for more Schwalbe puncture resistant tires, as well as put her suspension seat, fenders, rear rack and lights on the new one. As far as having a willingness to peddle, that is completely up to the rider as that bike has plenty of power for people 150 lbs or less. We live in Wa state with many hills.These bikes do real good with some assist. No real effort to climb any streets.
Have been happy with the Ecotric bikes I have owned, the low-cost "Peacedove" surprised me with its utility,I guess a lot of satisfaction depends on the willingness to pedal.
Another beautiful sunny, warm day here in the Pacific NW. Going riding along the Columbia River today and end at a big lake. All paved bike trails through woods and fall colors. Many miles of trails to ride and great weather to ride in. This is what retirement is for. Not for grumbling and pissing contests. Life is too short. See ya out there.
PedalUma
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For cargo and heavy duty I will use 48V, 10.5's. I am installing one today. For a weekend rental this past Saturday and Sunday, I let a guy from Oregon use two batteries, both 36V. One was 10.5 and the other 7.5. He did 60 miles of coastal hills each day and only used the 7.5 shown in that photo above on the drop bar bike. I love my IGH three with coaster. It is so clean and elegant. And the chromo with an upright position is comfy to ride. With a 16-t cog to a 42 ring it sustains over 20 which is fine for around town. It will still climb anything a car can go up as long as cadence is high. Make sure that the cells & BMS are top shelf and you are good to go.
