onlineaddy
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So why is Pushkar threatening to fold? I linked the recent post where he did this. More to the point, if they're solvent, what the hell are the hold-ups with the refunds? Insisting they're not going out of business just shifts the question from "Are they solvent?" to "Is this a scam?". Putting aside the list of shady practices they've been engaging in, I think the solvency question is the right one to focus on when they're still (slowly) delivering bikes that mostly bear passing resemblance to what was ordered.This post is stupid. They aren’t going out of business, I talked to Greg yesterday about ordering a spare 52v battery. They are alive and well.
You're citing someone that was threatening to sack most of Twitter's staff for their political takes as an example of a free speech advocate? Bold.I think you're a proponent of what you think free speech is, or should be. Someone else might have a different view.
I like Elon Musk's definition of free speech: "Someone you don't like is allowed to say something you don't like."
Any less boring than yours with your need to whiteknight for Pushkar?You must lead a very boring life with all the time you have to come on here and bad mouth Watt Wagons.
I can only comment on my dealings with Pushkar and Watt Wagons all which have been nothing but positive. So yes I am going to defend them when people repeatedly continue to bash the company. We get the fact that you and others don’t like WW, it’s been stated many times. So much so that its gotten really old. What little sympathy I had for yours and others issues is long gone.So why is Pushkar threatening to fold? I linked the recent post where he did this. More to the point, if they're solvent, what the hell are the hold-ups with the refunds? Insisting they're not going out of business just shifts the question from "Are they solvent?" to "Is this a scam?". Putting aside the list of shady practices they've been engaging in, I think the solvency question is the right one to focus on when they're still (slowly) delivering bikes that mostly bear passing resemblance to what was ordered.
You're citing someone that was threatening to sack most of Twitter's staff for their political takes as an example of a free speech advocate? Bold.
Any less boring than yours with your need to whiteknight for Pushkar?
Whenever I read anything from the WW defenders, it feels like walking through a village of glass houses - if for no other reason than they'd never accept the experiences they're defending.
I might add the quote that I often see, "If you don't like the subject line, don't read the post."IF everyone is Confident that Watt Wagons will refund the people that have asked for it then why not pool your money and then have him reimburse you? Then we can close this thread.
If not then I say let them vent until they are compensated and happy. You can defend these practices (that is your right) and it doesnt make it right or wrong it just makes it what it is.
Lets see you guys put your money where your keyboard meets your fingers (where your mouth is kinda).
Now when you have to wait for your money or a call back we will see how you react.. I have seen MANY topics on BUYER BEWARE and so on... Pool your money or let him complain. Once you have some skin in the game then you can cry about him crying.
Ok thats me.. I know what half of you will say and I know what the other half will do... None of you will man up though, that I am confident .
I'm not here for the sympathy. I'm here to:What little sympathy I had for yours and others issues is long gone.
Unfortunately there are other manufacturers that run this same type of business model. Sondors is one that comes to mind. When they launch a new bike they show you renderings, not actual pictures of the bike your getting. Ninety percent of the time the bike you get isn’t exactly what was originally shown. You also pay ahead and wait six months or more for your bike.I'm not here for the sympathy. I'm here to:
- Get what I'm owed.
- Inform others so they don't walk into the same horrible experience I did, which will potentially see them paying for a bike that'll never be built.
- Pressure Pushkar to lift his game - start communicating, stop selling vapourware, and stop doing shady nonsense like just leaving out or downgrading parts.