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The most corrupt Pharmaceutical business in history has now been exposed as having supplied South American politicians and their sons with trip on a $4.5 million yacht to party with Pfizer's bunch of bikini-clad young "models" hired to "entertain" the geezers and their sons, as Pfizer seeks more inroads into more billions. Video leaked.
 
The most corrupt Pharmaceutical business in history has now been exposed as having supplied South American politicians and their sons with trip on a $4.5 million yacht to party with Pfizer's bunch of bikini-clad young "models" hired to "entertain" the geezers and their sons, as Pfizer seeks more inroads into more billions. Video leaked.
Link to source?
 
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Fair question, but I'm with Handlebars on this general point, and I'll bet his source will check out. Drug companies are, indeed, unthinkably corrupt.

I had a freelance assignment (well, an extended temp job) in medical PR in the early '80s, and even then, I was totally shocked at the brazen greed and corruption. A good friend of mine got out of medical publishing around the turn of the century because he couldn't live with his conscience-- and has been a much happier man, though far less wealthy. I'm also of the opinion that most post-1980 antidepressants are far more dangerous than the drugs they were designed to replace.

The mRNA vaccines and COVID treatments are being watched far more closely by far more medical professionals from a wider variety of specialties. Let's also remember that drug companies do sometimes make blockbuster drugs that actually work-- antiretroviral medication for HIV patients has been a real lifesaver, I have several friends who would have been dead 30 years ago without these medications.

My theory is that antivirus and antibacterial drug development has to be less prone to graft and corruption because the outcome is more easily measured. You can't pretend a virus isn't there when it is, or that someone's alive when they're dead.

Where you'll see more funny business is (for example) with psych meds and oncology. Nothing makes me more depressed or more cynical than chemotherapy agents that extend life without measuring quality of life-- that's the kind of shell game you can run if you can get away with choosing a crap outcome measure. And you can suppress trials that showed no efficacy, reclassify suicide as depression recurrence... it's easier to p-Hack (just turn a bunch of different tests and publish whichever P values sound impressive) or to HARK (Hypothesis After Results Known.)
 
^exactly right About the insatiable appetite of the trolls… I’m wondering whether to get my 2nd booster or wait a bit until the new formula comes online? Until then just covering my bases I stocked up on Ivermectin…for my new over-priced calves. I wonder if I could promote the steak as Covid resistant?
btw…my first question was sincere
 
Drug companies are, indeed, unthinkably corrupt.
For real. My stroke meds are $270/month WITH insurance. I buy from an Asian source with meds from a FDA and an EU similar approval for $51 and a 90 day supply. I vetted the source with an Asian Dr friend in the same country. NUTS! Walmart can by drugs for less than Medicare.
This thread is officially locked. I cannot spend most of my time editing particular threads with the same few involved. Ignore those you disagree with. That is the basic rule of this forum. Stop bickering here in the forums, please. If that's the type of behavior you want to display then this forum is not for you.


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^exactly right About the insatiable appetite of the trolls… I’m wondering whether to get my 2nd booster or wait a bit until the new formula comes online? Until then just covering my bases I stocked up on Ivermectin…for my new over-priced calves. I wonder if I could promote the steak as Covid resistant?
btw…my first question was sincere
i did it. I’m a Rochester Mayo patient. I’m certain I’d be taking my dirt nap had it not been for their care. So I’m compliant and still standing after my 4th poke. Heart surgery, salvaged kidneys, and a pacemaker. Thus far they’ve been spot on. I certainly wouldn’t trust some crazy Canuck to sort my health care. Weird to have a non U.S. citizen constantly trash a US potus. Just a simple bored troll. Nothing more nothing less…
 
The most corrupt Pharmaceutical business in history has now been exposed as having supplied South American politicians and their sons with trip on a $4.5 million yacht to party with Pfizer's bunch of bikini-clad young "models" hired to "entertain" the geezers and their sons, as Pfizer seeks more inroads into more billions. Video leaked.
These days money really is the root of all evil.
 
He's Canadian. I'm pretty sure he didn't have a vote. If he did I suppose he'd have voted for the other guy.
The other guy, the guy who wanted to fill the strategic oil reserve to the top?
The administration’s initial idea for the SPR was to purchase 77 million barrels of oil – the amount required to fill all available space in the reserve - directly from small U.S. producers most at risk from the market slump.

But after Democratic lawmakers blocked funding for the program in last month’s stimulus package...
Now you get a guy for transportation secretary who takes off for maternity leave. Guess what he says? Use the Strategic Reserve.


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Send it to Europe. A sick joke on America.
 
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I don't know where to put this but it does have a pic of an Ebike.


"Three days later, a stranger called and said she had found the dog wandering around a local high school. Warda is now taking self-defense classes and advises French bulldog owners to carry pepper spray or a whistle."

I would advise them to go to the pound next time they want a pet!
 
He's Canadian. I'm pretty sure he didn't have a vote. If he did I suppose he'd have voted for the other guy.
I'm curious, but not enough to bother reading the blather. What I am curious about is the commitment of the naysayers to their respective countries. We celebrate our freedoms tomorrow, how many of the negative spewing"experts" actually served their country? I've been amazed by how many hawks are like 45, chicken hawks! (now before my sensible friends here take umbrage, I don't think service is an absolute must. I have friends that were jailed and others that became Canadian citizens during the SE Asia "police action") USN Honorable Discharge
 
I'm curious, but not enough to bother reading the blather. What I am curious about is the commitment of the naysayers to their respective countries. We celebrate our freedoms tomorrow, how many of the negative spewing"experts" actually served their country? I've been amazed by how many hawks are like 45, chicken hawks! (now before my sensible friends here take umbrage, I don't think service is an absolute must. I have friends that were jailed and others that became Canadian citizens during the SE Asia "police action") USN Honorable Discharge

Or done anything material-- something that cost time and/or money, or took on risks to personal safety-- to help active duty, veterans, or young people in ROTC or preparing for basic. Or folks working in law enforcement, for that matter. Or done any other kinds of public service themselves, like volunteering at a community center, or supporting people who do.

And I agree, Tom, it's not morally inconsistent to support some wars and not others. (Well, maybe for a pacifist or a quaker.)

I just wrote to Powerfly Lee, who I haven't seen here in months, to thank him for periodically visiting my dad's grave at a military cemetery in the Baltimore/DC area. So today, maybe instead of throwing rocks for each other, we can show some support for those who serve their countries.
 
Or done anything material-- something that cost time and/or money, or took on risks to personal safety-- to help active duty, veterans, or young people in ROTC or preparing for basic. Or folks working in law enforcement, for that matter. Or done any other kinds of public service themselves, like volunteering at a community center, or supporting people who do.

And I agree, Tom, it's not morally inconsistent to support some wars and not others. (Well, maybe for a pacifist or a quaker.)

I just wrote to Powerfly Lee, who I haven't seen here in months, to thank him for periodically visiting my dad's grave at a military cemetery in the Baltimore/DC area. So today, maybe instead of throwing rocks for each other, we can show some support for those who serve their countries.
As a VN-era veteran AND a member of Viet Nam Veterans Against the War and one of those pitching tear gas back into police lines at Dewey Canyon III. We remain firmly entrenched in community service. I was firmly against the war but entrenched in service. I support a strong military and often remind the chicken hawks that MANY "libtards" served and will serve honorably. My stepdad was a "nuclear veteran". He as a radioman was in the trenches for the nuclear above-ground testing in NV in the early 50s. He died a card-carrying Democrat of rare cancers linked entirely to nuclear bomb radiation. An Obama, Clinton, and Carter voter. Seems to me these asshats have never been out of the country and seen what the rest of the world is like. Just internet warriors and clueless trolls.
 
Or done anything material-- something that cost time and/or money, or took on risks to personal safety-- to help active duty, veterans, or young people in ROTC or preparing for basic. Or folks working in law enforcement, for that matter. Or done any other kinds of public service themselves, like volunteering at a community center, or supporting people who do.

And I agree, Tom, it's not morally inconsistent to support some wars and not others. (Well, maybe for a pacifist or a quaker.)

I just wrote to Powerfly Lee, who I haven't seen here in months, to thank him for periodically visiting my dad's grave at a military cemetery in the Baltimore/DC area. So today, maybe instead of throwing rocks for each other, we can show some support for those who serve their countries.
Well said. Non-partisan.
Bill Clinton had no military experience. Claimed: "Clinton had apparently agreed to join the R.O.T.C. as a way of avoiding being drafted into service during the Vietnam War and later reneged on that promise when his draft-lottery number ensured that he would not be selected."
Barack Obama no military experience
Donald Trump medical exemption
Joe Biden medical exemption
 
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