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I was in favor of the vax mandates (briefly), when we were told-- and it looked like-- vaccines prevented infection almost completely, or that asymptomatic infections in vaccinated people could not be transmitted to others. When it became clear that they didn't-- after the Provincetown incident-- I changed my mind.
Here's another facet of "the pandemic" that I've noticed because I follow the city covid information on cases, hospitalizations, ICU cases and ICU Ventilator cases.
The ICU numbers and ICU Ventilator case numbers are not correlating well with death numbers. They show how many were added to each group daily and if you know the previous day's numbers, it's easy to analyse because the numbers are low...20, 10, 6, etc., Additions being as low as 0. Most people dying are not dying in ICU. e.g 2 were added to ICU, ICU number stayed the same, none were added to Ventilator, stayed the same, but 6 people died. This is ongoing.
You would understand what that probably indicates, I assume.
 
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Pure bullshit.
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That’s an opinion and I really never worry about what people think like me or not it won’t mess my day up lol.. I will tell you what I think or what I think I know. My experiences .. take them for what they are worth but the one thing I don’t try to do ever is lie . I am honest to a fault so sometimes it’s hard to digest.

Tomjasz do you have any proof what I said isn’t my experience? Didn’t think so.

I think your BS IS BS .. and that’s ok. You are entitled .. again it’s information so take it for what it’s worth . I have no reason to share what I know. Some can do that and lay their heads down at night.. I can’t so to me I’d be honest and don’t like me than lie and be your best friend.. most of my friends are the same way..

If you go back and look at your responses.. only yours. You have complained every single one like an angry old man. Troll? Maybe you should reread all your posts in this thread and step back a tad.. honest evaluation .. I try to add substance not names or deflection ..
 
It is funny, and he even picked "drinking the KoolAid", which is the term used for taking the vaccine. That's how unaware.
no its used to say your following crazy.
  • "Drinking the Kool-Aid" is a phrase bandied about regularly in corporate life, especially when someone wants to take a dig at people with a cult-like belief in something.
 
no its used to say your following crazy.
  • "Drinking the Kool-Aid" is a phrase bandied about regularly in corporate life, especially when someone wants to take a dig at people with a cult-like belief in something.
They’re gone from my feed. Nutters!
 
Drinking the kool aid comes from the jonestown cult, they drank poisoned kool aid willingly and gave it their kids.
 
Drinking the kool aid comes from the jonestown cult, they drank poisoned kool aid willingly and gave it their kids.
Technically it was not "Kool Aid", but a knockoff known as "Flavor Aid" that was laced with cyanide.


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no its used to say your following crazy.
  • "Drinking the Kool-Aid" is a phrase bandied about regularly in corporate life, especially when someone wants to take a dig at people with a cult-like belief in something.
Wrong! It's always about swallowing a cult thing, and it is a term used to describe taking the vaccine.

Below is the almost correct derivation.
Drinking the kool aid comes from the jonestown cult, they drank poisoned kool aid willingly and gave it their kids.
Not only willingly though. Enforced.
A perfect fit for those being duped and the enforcement, and forced on the kids if they aren't willing.
 
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A perfect fit for those being duped and the enforcement, and forced on the kids if they aren't willing.
right billions duped and the antivaxxers are the brilliant ones. right I mean there were not record antivaxers dying or anything. They lost a lot of talkshow hosts too. let's not forget eating hose paste too. sorry Junior you're on the horse paste side.
 
right billions duped and the antivaxxers are the brilliant ones. right I mean there were not record antivaxers dying or anything. They lost a lot of talkshow hosts too. let's not forget eating hose paste too. sorry Junior you're on the horse paste side.
foofie,you were just wrong in saying "no". It is indeed a term used in regard to taking the jab. Changing the subject doesn't make you right when you were wrong.
 
Pure bullshit.
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It is nearly impossible to reason with someone who does not believes that well-fitting N95 masks are not effective-- pretty much 100% effective-- against the virus. If masks didn't work, all of our doctors would have gotten COVID before the vaccines were available.

The virus is smaller than the gaps in N95 mask fibers, that is true. However, the fibers have an electrostatic charge which capture the virus. Here is a pretty cool explanation of how they work. If this doesn't convince anyone, I don't know what will.


I literally stake my life on them. In the spring, I saw infected young adults immediately after they got out of quarantine (and when they were probably still contagious) and I know I wound up seeing a few who tested a positive a day or two after I saw them. I did limit indoor exposure time when I could, but if someone had something really private they wanted to discuss, we'd work indoors for 10 or 15 minutes in a tiny room with terrible ventilation.
So here's my guess. Each time you take a shot your immune response is harmed at least temporarily - I guess mostly people recover from that immune response harm over time,

This is what I wonder about. I don't think it's a crackpot idea, or an invalid question to be asking. Immunity is really complicated, and it's very different for different people. It is not logical to assume that because an individual has some pretty flaky ideas, therefore all their ideas are flaky.

I also wonder about the skill of the folks giving injections, as HB noted upthread, though from what I've read, it's usually the shoulder that causes problems. SIRVA is a real issue, it's definitely underreported, and it makes sense that we'd see an increased incidence with a mass vaccination campaign, both because more people are being vaccinated and because the folks giving the vaccine are (sometimes) not as well trained.

Here's a peer-reviewed source for this:


As for the cattle de-worming agent, I think that's pure crackpottery. The fact that one individual may have personally observed 40 people who took it and recovered shortly afterwards means exactly nothing. I know 20 people who recovered about two days after drinking wine-- this also means nothing.

Plaquenil made a bit more sense, as at least it is supposed to slow down an overactive immune system. But it's a drug I didn't take even when it was offered to me for my connective tissue disorder, because other people with my disorder said it never worked well, and it has serious long-term side effects. Plaquenil might make some sense for patients if it looks like they're going into a cytokine storm, but I would think conventional corticosteroids would be more trustworthy.

If we had a good therapy for COVID, we'd be using it. We are using the drugs we do have, they're just not that great.
 
It is nearly impossible to reason with someone who does not believes that well-fitting N95 masks are not effective-- pretty much 100% effective-- against the virus. If masks didn't work, all of our doctors would have gotten COVID before the vaccines were available.
You're not saying that doctors and nurses and other workers didn't get infected while wearing masks.

The virus is smaller than the gaps in N95 mask fibers, that is true. However, the fibers have an electrostatic charge which capture the virus. Here is a pretty cool explanation of how they work. If this doesn't convince anyone, I don't know what will.

I had much higher protection level than crappy fitting moist n95. I made a must-pass system, in through nose out through mouth unobstructed.

As well, about half of all attempts by hospital workers to don and doff PPE resulted in contamination under testing conditions. So for most people, masks and gloves were also a source of a danger.
 
It is nearly impossible to reason with someone who does not believes that well-fitting N95 masks are not effective-- pretty much 100% effective-- against the virus. If masks didn't work, all of our doctors would have gotten COVID before the vaccines were available.

The virus is smaller than the gaps in N95 mask fibers, that is true. However, the fibers have an electrostatic charge which capture the virus. Here is a pretty cool explanation of how they work. If this doesn't convince anyone, I don't know what will.

The trouble with those masks is multifold. I did purchase some good ones before the chinese and the medical people sent out people to buy them up.
However,
1. they tend to make you breathe more forcefully. Not good, leakage.
2. get damp and then you touch them and then touch your face as you put on a fresh one.
3. workers had to wear the same mask for long periods due to shortages

I posted instructions here on how to remove gloves without self contamination :)
 
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