Instead of banning certain members...

[Handlebars]

"ad hominem" attacks are what gets threads shut down."

That seems to be true. So the question becomes, "why would anyone who is a good member and interested in having such discussion, do mostly what would get discussion shut down or removed?"

 

[Gionnirocket]

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I see there still firmly in her grasp

 

[ChezCheese:)]

Check the Argument #38. It is how Schopenhauer named it

The Art of Being Right - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Ah, that's what you mean! I have not read up on all the many (38) ways of being right

 

[Stefan Mikes]

Ah, that's what you mean! I have not read up on all the many (38) ways of being right

All the 38 methods are more popular on the Internet than you think!

 

[Stefan Mikes]

Actually, Arthur Schopenhauer wrote his book to identify and CONDEMN the bad methods of discussion. And there was no Internet when he lived!

 

[tomjasz]

K

Actually, Arthur Schopenhauer wrote his book to identify and CONDEMN the bad methods of discussion. And there was no Internet when he lived!

”His work has been described as an exemplary manifestation of philosophical pessimism.[23][24][25]” you Ypres a guide as a weapon. How does that further civil discussion. BTW we’re upsetting Maui Waui.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

K

”His work has been described as an exemplary manifestation of philosophical pessimism.[23][24][25]” you Ypres a guide as a weapon. How does that further civil discussion. BTW we’re upsetting Maui Waui.

Tom, whatever definitions could be applied to the Eristic, Schopenhauer was actually fed up with the discussions of his era, which were actually the same in their form as they are today.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

I must mention something. Well in the past, I found myself to be such a quarrelsome person on the early Internet, I started worrying about myself. Someone gave me an advice to study Schopenhauer to make me identify my wrongdoings. I'm still a quarrelsome person but now I am an angel compared to the past That's why I continuously encourage to be talking ON TOPIC in so many threads. This is often perceived as arrogance from my side. Not. I try to avoid the eristic and so-called flame wars.

 

[tomjasz]

found myself to be such a quarrelsome person on the early Internet, I started worrying about myself.

So, 80 posts poking Bafang users doesn’t qualify as quarrelsome?

OK

 

[Stefan Mikes]

So, 80 posts poking Bafang users doesn’t qualify as quarrelsome?

If Bafang is mentioned in the context of Specialized, then I am not the guilty
Besides, I admit I am a Bafang hater A Bosch E-Bike hater as well, although I accept people riding Bosch E-Bikes. (It is not their fault they were misled)

Smile, Tom! I really like you!

P.S. There are often new threads such as "Aventon or Himiway?" I struggle with myself not to write "Neither". And I'm winning!

 

[tomjasz]

ON TOPIC

Off topic!

 

[Stefan Mikes]

Off topic!

Haha!

Tom, now I'll use the eristic in its purest form:
Who is the thread owner, eh?

 

[Handlebars]

There's only one Dr. Jill. She can't be everywhere.

 

[tomjasz]

Is it? I've only heard this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem?wprov=sfla1

argumentum ad hominem predates the quote here. Perhaps by centuries.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

argumentum ad hominem predates the quote here. Perhaps by centuries.

Actually, Schopenhauer perceived these two concepts as separate and different entities.

The original title was Letzter Kunstgriff (The Last Trick) here. By the way, the last sentence here refers to what is known as the "flame war" on the Internet.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

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Are you ok?

 

[Handlebars]

 

[Stefan Mikes]

Just bored. And yawning.

12:37 am. Not the time for some sleep?

 

[tomjasz]

12:37 am. Not the time for some sleep?

Nunyer!!

 

[Stefan Mikes]

Nunyer!!

"Niania"