tomjasz
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I thought Class 3 would feel safer on the road
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If I pass a cyclist, slow moped or pedestrian I flash my hazards, hopefully to alert those behind me that they are about to pass a slower vehicle. And I recently restocked my "cheap lights are better than nothing" campaign from Lidl. If you're on a bicycle and have no lights I'll stop and give you a set because I 'm coming home from work around 9:30pm. If I have a hard time seeing a cyclist then I know a most car won't see them at all.
And concerning the Bible. I'm not religious by any means. I think the bible gives most people a grounding and God knows more people need a grounding! Compassion takes a lot less effort than anger and compassion rewards one with much better results.
And concerning the Bible. I'm not religious by any means. I think the bible gives most people a grounding and God knows more people need a grounding! Compassion takes a lot less effort than anger and compassion rewards one with much better results.
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tomjasz
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Convenient interpretations?
Blake Cheetah
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Jordan Peterson is a regressive waste of space.Happy riding!
My observation about cycling, be it ebike or pedal bike is that if I am decked out in Lycra and Spandex it seems like a percentage of the drivers out there are aggressive and rude.
if I go out in my sandals, shorts, and a button up shirt that percentage seems to drop noticeably, like they are recognizing me as a fellow human or some such.
also, at least in medellin, if I am riding a slower speeds than the cars most cars seem to treat me as a bicycle. However if I am going the same speed or faster than the cars, they seem to treat me as a motorcycle and they cut me no slack.
just my impressions.
if I go out in my sandals, shorts, and a button up shirt that percentage seems to drop noticeably, like they are recognizing me as a fellow human or some such.
also, at least in medellin, if I am riding a slower speeds than the cars most cars seem to treat me as a bicycle. However if I am going the same speed or faster than the cars, they seem to treat me as a motorcycle and they cut me no slack.
just my impressions.
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There's a guy on youtube who endorses fly fishing button-up shirts for cycling. The back is cut to give you room to swing your arms around. They're full coverage for sun protection, they dry quickly and they have good pockets. And as you mentioned, people are slightly less likely to try to run you over.
In Bellingham, we have a few intersections where there is a green "bicycle box" (or whatever you call them) that let bikes move ahead of the autos, though when coming from behind, I don't usually go around the cars to the front--I guess because I don't want to annoy drivers more than necessary. Those places also have a "no free right turn" sign across the intersection, but I have to wonder whether all drivers see those signs. I do get the impression, in dealing with traffic where it is unavoidable, that most drivers really don't want to hit me. I suppose they don't want the inconvenience of having to explain themselves to the police and their own insurance companies.
I often find myself wending my way down neighborhood arterial streets where there is no bike lane. Whenever there is a gap between parked cars, I move to the right to let any following cars go by easily, but then back into the traffic part of the lane when I have to. I'm curious whether doing this is necessary or even wise.
Actually, has some very racy parts, to the extent that I just heard about someone who is trying to get it banned from school libraries.
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this depends on local laws. filtering and lane splitting are legal in some places and not in others. explicit legal in california for motorcyles and (i believe) other two wheeled vehicles. whether it inconveniences anyone else is a judgement call - in an urban environment it often has LESS of a slowing effect for a bicycle to move past stopped cars, turn or get out in front of them rather than sit between two cars where passing may be more difficult. here the pedestrian crossings (which will shortly be legal for bikes to use) have a significant head start on the cars, so a bike can get out in front of the traffic, where they are highly visible and not in danger of getting squished.
in 10,000 + miles on local roads and streets i do not think i have ever observed an auto driver's tangible "respect" for me go down when i filter past them in stopped or extremely slow traffic. and safe to say that if an ahole (it would have to be one) opened their door to intentionally stop or injure me, they would be the subject of both criminal and civil proceedings in which i would make sure to make their life as absolutely difficult as possible, no matter what it cost. i have NEVER heard of or seen anyone doing this, and the fact that you suggested it is horrifying.
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We call it lane splitting in California, and on a motorcycle it's a legal maneuver, with certain conditions. I do it on my motorcycles, especially at a stop light, for self preservation. The last thing you want on a M/C is to be squished between two cars because the guy behind you had their head up their a**. Much safer in between cars, side to side with them, but I lane split with respect to the cage drivers and stay within the legal guide lines, but I have never considered doing it on a bicycle. Bicycles are too slow to be mixed in with traffic. I stay as far away from the cages as I can, usually off the the very right shoulder, and when I'm really felling vulnerable I ride against traffic so I can least see the cars as they whiz by me, not too often but sometimes it seems the safest option.
Riding against traffic seems very risky, and I think is illegal in some places. If I'm on my bike, and see a bike coming toward me in the bike lane, I find it disconcerting, especially when they have their own bike lane on their side of the road. Who has the right of way, especially if it's not a wide enough lane to safely pass? It bothers me to see pedestrians in the bike lane too, but we never come to blows.
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Jeebus, but some days I wonder if ALL those books we have had centuries of wars over ought to be left at home.
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I have my grandson that same advice when he got his motorcycle.
Ben,
I'm also in Wa. and just ride at my own pace. I ignore the speed of traffic, but I'm usually in bike lanes or on trails. If you try to keep up with car's you lose, every time. On streets without bike lanes I just hug the curb and roll along at my normal 15 mph. Trying to keep up with cars is real stressful and ruins the whole biking experience. I have two super bright daytime rear lights on that can be seen a mile away. Cygolight. Get a couple and set them to Daytime Lightening mode. Cars will see you up ahead real easy. Even if texting or talking. In our state bikers have the same rights and responsibilities as cars. We share the roads. We don't have to stop at stop signs. By law we can, slow down, look both ways, then roll through them. At traffic lights, we need only slow down but can run them if it's clear to do so. I always wait out the lights myself. No reason to speed down the street. It's hard on the bike and just adds to more stress for the rider. Then again I didn't buy my bike to go fast anywhere, just for relaxation and moderate exercise. I also have front Cygolite on day flash mode. Good luck out there.
This has nothing to do with people hating bikers . And more to do with everyone is totally self focused these days . Everyone is in a hurry . Also if they have never ridden a Bike along side cars . They have no concept of what it feels like to have a car close . There's more road rage today then ever . People today have a low threshold to getting angry and often violent .
It's not your e-bike that's hated . It's other people who disrupt your intentions . Regardless of where you are . That's why good guys carry
It's not your e-bike that's hated . It's other people who disrupt your intentions . Regardless of where you are . That's why good guys carry
I would guess most who carry can control their tempers . But you never know . We passed a parked car this weekend that was parked in a Bike lane right in front of a No parking sign . My fiend says as we pass . You're in our bike lane . The guy got so mad he followed us for over a mile while laying on his horn . He was so close we thought he was going to hit one of the slightly slower riders . Swearing at the top of his lungs . While it didn't come to that . It was comforting to know I an 2 others were carrying . The women with us were all really scared .
Only speculating, but I'd bet none of the shooters were carry permitted.
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I'm glad I live in Canada
We've had 53 mass shootings since 2001
We have to kill each other with knives or our bare hands.
It's hard to kill a lot of people the slow way.
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