I Am Buying An Electric Bike...

Gator

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but I don't know which one. I have ridden a Trek Super Commuter 8 and it was very pleasant, but just a little too expensive. I have considered the Giant Quick E +. Haibike Urban Plus (I found one), and the Specialized Vado 5.0. My commute consists of 22 miles, round trip, in suburban, rural and urban settings. There are some pretty challenging hills, one of which is about two miles of incline. I am 6' 5" tall and weigh 200 Lbs. I am really committed to doing this commute through all seasons of the year. If you have any suggestions for an electric bike, I would love to hear them.

Thanks in advance
 
Personally, IMO the selection of standard bicycles is dramatically greater, and a motor/battery kit can be selected to meet your need, with easy installation. Riding all year will vary dramatically in its requirements depending on where you are, like Alaska or Florida. The challenging hills might need a lot of motor, but much less depending on whether you can or intend to pedal them.

Matching a commercial ebike for your height will be difficult. They are overpriced and limited in selection, but they do offer some things for a certain clientele. Their range estimates are total crap, you get about half that.

Self installation is amazingly easy, if you can change a tire and install a water bottle mount, you can handle it, and get something custom-made for your needs, and VERY much more affordable.

22 miles is pretty easy, but gets harder if you want much over 20mph, piece of cake under 20 mph, really good cake if you pedal a fair amount.

Budget, weight requirements, live on a 2nd floor, perhaps? How comfortable are you doing frequent maintenance, are you OK with paying ungodly prices for replacement parts, etc?
 
but I don't know which one. I have ridden a Trek Super Commuter 8 and it was very pleasant, but just a little too expensive. I have considered the Giant Quick E +. Haibike Urban Plus (I found one), and the Specialized Vado 5.0. My commute consists of 22 miles, round trip, in suburban, rural and urban settings. There are some pretty challenging hills, one of which is about two miles of incline. I am 6' 5" tall and weigh 200 Lbs. I am really committed to doing this commute through all seasons of the year. If you have any suggestions for an electric bike, I would love to hear them.

Thanks in advance

Hello, Welcome to the Forum. You mentioned that Trek Super Commuter 8 was just a bit to expensive. I own two Trek e-bikes, one is the XM700+ and I love it. It's fast, smooth and very solid. I urge you to check it out. Trek service and support via my LBS have been great. Which ever bike you choose I strongly suggest you install a Cirrus Body Float Seat post. I have one on both of my bikes and it makes a world of difference.

https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/bikes/hybrid-bikes/electric-hybrid-bikes/xm700/xm700/p/16641/

http://cirruscycles.com/

John from CT
 
but I don't know which one. I have ridden a Trek Super Commuter 8 and it was very pleasant, but just a little too expensive. I have considered the Giant Quick E +. Haibike Urban Plus (I found one), and the Specialized Vado 5.0. My commute consists of 22 miles, round trip, in suburban, rural and urban settings. There are some pretty challenging hills, one of which is about two miles of incline. I am 6' 5" tall and weigh 200 Lbs. I am really committed to doing this commute through all seasons of the year. If you have any suggestions for an electric bike, I would love to hear them.

Thanks in advance

I'd look for a Stromer ST1 left over model.. they haven't changed much in years.
 
Personally, IMO the selection of standard bicycles is dramatically greater, and a motor/battery kit can be selected to meet your need, with easy installation. Riding all year will vary dramatically in its requirements depending on where you are, like Alaska or Florida. The challenging hills might need a lot of motor, but much less depending on whether you can or intend to pedal them.

Matching a commercial ebike for your height will be difficult. They are overpriced and limited in selection, but they do offer some things for a certain clientele. Their range estimates are total crap, you get about half that.

Self installation is amazingly easy, if you can change a tire and install a water bottle mount, you can handle it, and get something custom-made for your needs, and VERY much more affordable.

22 miles is pretty easy, but gets harder if you want much over 20mph, piece of cake under 20 mph, really good cake if you pedal a fair amount.

Budget, weight requirements, live on a 2nd floor, perhaps? How comfortable are you doing frequent maintenance, are you OK with paying ungodly prices for replacement parts, etc?

I live in SW Ohio. I thought about converting my Trek 930 to a mid mount. I can do basic stuff, but I have never been real confident with making it all work together. I will continue to explore this option. Thanks for your reply.
 
Hello, Welcome to the Forum. You mentioned that Trek Super Commuter 8 was just a bit to expensive. I own two Trek e-bikes, one is the XM700+ and I love it. It's fast, smooth and very solid. I urge you to check it out. Trek service and support via my LBS have been great. Which ever bike you choose I strongly suggest you install a Cirrus Body Float Seat post. I have one on both of my bikes and it makes a world of difference.

https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/bikes/hybrid-bikes/electric-hybrid-bikes/xm700/xm700/p/16641/

http://cirruscycles.com/

John from CT

I have been a dedicated Trek fan for years. I have my Trek, my son has one, and I am about to buy another for my youngest son. I am still looking at some of the Trek models, but I am having a hard time finding one in an XL. It is the same issue with the XM700, but I like it. Thanks for your reply.
 
I have been a dedicated Trek fan for years. I have my Trek, my son has one, and I am about to buy another for my youngest son. I am still looking at some of the Trek models, but I am having a hard time finding one in an XL. It is the same issue with the XM700, but I like it. Thanks for your reply.

You will find people of varied experience, backgrounds, mechanical ability, tinkers, do it yourselfers, motorheads, dirt bikers, long distance trekkers, and daily commuters here with at least four times as many opinions in every category.

Gator, given your intent to use this bike just about every day for getting to work and keeping you safe, I strongly suggest you go with your gut on this one.

The decision you are making is not for a piece of recreational equipment to be a source of weekend play but rather reliable and safe daily transportation.

As one who rides daily instead of driving a car, I strongly believe that a little more money spent on a solid, quality bike with service you can count on will totally outweigh any extra cost you might incur up front. It is not easy to wait, once you have made your decision but be willing to wait on the right bike in the right size. If you are like the rest of us, you will be riding this bike more often and further than you expect.

I ride a Riese & Muller Nevo Nuvinci GH which in about the same price category as the Supercomuter. R&M does not have nearly the service network that Trek has but I am quite mechanical, so that is not much of an issue.

Every day I ride I am glad I stretched the budget and went with solid quality.
 
You will find people of varied experience, backgrounds, mechanical ability, tinkers, do it yourselfers, motorheads, dirt bikers, long distance trekkers, and daily commuters here with at least four times as many opinions in every category.

Gator, given your intent to use this bike just about every day for getting to work and keeping you safe, I strongly suggest you go with your gut on this one.

The decision you are making is not for a piece of recreational equipment to be a source of weekend play but rather reliable and safe daily transportation.

As one who rides daily instead of driving a car, I strongly believe that a little more money spent on a solid, quality bike with service you can count on will totally outweigh any extra cost you might incur up front. It is not easy to wait, once you have made your decision but be willing to wait on the right bike in the right size. If you are like the rest of us, you will be riding this bike more often and further than you expect.

I ride a Riese & Muller Nevo Nuvinci GH which in about the same price category as the Supercomuter. R&M does not have nearly the service network that Trek has but I am quite mechanical, so that is not much of an issue.

Every day I ride I am glad I stretched the budget and went with solid quality.


Hello Alaskan, Your post is spot on, I can't agree more. I hope 'Gator' sees it.

John from CT
 
I have been a dedicated Trek fan for years. I have my Trek, my son has one, and I am about to buy another for my youngest son. I am still looking at some of the Trek models, but I am having a hard time finding one in an XL. It is the same issue with the XM700, but I like it. Thanks for your reply.

Hello, Perhaps you're aware, but if not, the XM 700+ comes in a 60 cm frame ( I have a 55 ), and the actual frame is larger then usual. The Trek link I send prior has three frame sizes with all the numbers.
 
3 and one-half years, 12,000 miles, daily use, only vehicle, Zero problems other than the one late night where for some reason the bike refused to go thru the door sideways. i chose my motor because mileage reports like this for my model are fairly common. Other models in the same class, not so much.

Meets my needs perfectly, because I designed it for the purpose. Started with a Specialized Crossroads, added a front MXUS xf07 and an Ezee 36 Volt 15 amp battery. Got the speed I wanted, ease of maintenance, range, pedalability, quality, weight, load carrying, and comfort, all matched to what I wanted, in a quality product for about $1200. LBS will handle all the bike parts, all standard and easily replaceable, motor will work with many types and brands of replacement battery, battery will work with any motor, no high-dollar low-production parts, no proprietary BS, not locked in to any company. Make sure you check battery and motor replacement costs for a turn-key unit. No friggin way am I paying those prices.

Your Trek is a good starting point, the motor choice gets a bit tricky. Mid-drive is best for hills, IF you just can't pedal that much, BUT they require very much more frequent replacement of chains, gearsets, and chainrings as they are putting much more power through those components than they are designed for.

The ultimate in reliability is a Direct Drive hub motor, heavy, drag when coasting, but no moving parts and virtually bulletproof. Geared hub is next, followed by mid drive. Hubs will climb hills just fine, but you have to balance max speed versus hill climbing, less of one, more of the other. If you can add more hill climb power when needed, then you can go for a faster motor, otherwise you need a slower one that can climb the hill all on its own.

Battery choice is just speed and range versus weight and cost, with some quality factors thrown in.

You choose what you want rather than trying to find someone else's choice that comes close.

Cold weather you need to insulate your battery, do not allow it to freeze, also be aware that a battery fully charged when warm can become dangerously overcharged if allowed to become very cold, which reduces total capacity. Charge inside, take outside and ride right away, if you instead let sit for several hours in the cold, might be a pile of ashes when you come back out.

Picking the right vendor is an issue, but it might help if you could talk to somebody who spent several years researching who is good, who is cheap, who just plain sucks, and who is honest and reliable, according to not just a few but many dozens of real user reports spread over several years.

I am not mechanically inclined AT ALL and the conversion was easy. DIY mid-mount is significantly more complex than hub drive, requires a roughly $30 tool, but not that hard.

Also, greetings from a former Buckeye transplanted to the Sunshine state.
 
Since you already have a bike you like, check out the ShareRoller forum here. It's an easy-on/easy-off 750w friction drive unit that is shipping next month. Won't be cheap (~ $1200) but seems to me like a good way to get started and easily returned if you don't like it.

If you're truly committed to riding through the OH winter you'll need studded tires, which won't work with the SR4. I would want an electric fat bike for winter commuting, YMMV.
 
You will find people of varied experience, backgrounds, mechanical ability, tinkers, do it yourselfers, motorheads, dirt bikers, long distance trekkers, and daily commuters here with at least four times as many opinions in every category.

Gator, given your intent to use this bike just about every day for getting to work and keeping you safe, I strongly suggest you go with your gut on this one.

The decision you are making is not for a piece of recreational equipment to be a source of weekend play but rather reliable and safe daily transportation.

As one who rides daily instead of driving a car, I strongly believe that a little more money spent on a solid, quality bike with service you can count on will totally outweigh any extra cost you might incur up front. It is not easy to wait, once you have made your decision but be willing to wait on the right bike in the right size. If you are like the rest of us, you will be riding this bike more often and further than you expect.

I ride a Riese & Muller Nevo Nuvinci GH which in about the same price category as the Supercomuter. R&M does not have nearly the service network that Trek has but I am quite mechanical, so that is not much of an issue.

Every day I ride I am glad I stretched the budget and went with solid quality.

Well said and appreciated on my part. I do have a thing for reliability =D I looked at R and M and I love the dual battery models. They appear well designed and look super sharp. I would like to test ride one if I can find a dealer.
 
Since you already have a bike you like, check out the ShareRoller forum here. It's an easy-on/easy-off 750w friction drive unit that is shipping next month. Won't be cheap (~ $1200) but seems to me like a good way to get started and easily returned if you don't like it.

If you're truly committed to riding through the OH winter you'll need studded tires, which won't work with the SR4. I would want an electric fat bike for winter commuting, YMMV.


I like fat bikes. I am trying to balance the widest tire possible with year round use and distance. Not sure what that looks like. Especially a fat bike for 6' 5" of me. Thanks for your reply.
 
3 and one-half years, 12,000 miles, daily use, only vehicle, Zero problems other than the one late night where for some reason the bike refused to go thru the door sideways. i chose my motor because mileage reports like this for my model are fairly common. Other models in the same class, not so much.

Meets my needs perfectly, because I designed it for the purpose. Started with a Specialized Crossroads, added a front MXUS xf07 and an Ezee 36 Volt 15 amp battery. Got the speed I wanted, ease of maintenance, range, pedalability, quality, weight, load carrying, and comfort, all matched to what I wanted, in a quality product for about $1200. LBS will handle all the bike parts, all standard and easily replaceable, motor will work with many types and brands of replacement battery, battery will work with any motor, no high-dollar low-production parts, no proprietary BS, not locked in to any company. Make sure you check battery and motor replacement costs for a turn-key unit. No friggin way am I paying those prices.

Your Trek is a good starting point, the motor choice gets a bit tricky. Mid-drive is best for hills, IF you just can't pedal that much, BUT they require very much more frequent replacement of chains, gearsets, and chainrings as they are putting much more power through those components than they are designed for.

The ultimate in reliability is a Direct Drive hub motor, heavy, drag when coasting, but no moving parts and virtually bulletproof. Geared hub is next, followed by mid drive. Hubs will climb hills just fine, but you have to balance max speed versus hill climbing, less of one, more of the other. If you can add more hill climb power when needed, then you can go for a faster motor, otherwise you need a slower one that can climb the hill all on its own.

Battery choice is just speed and range versus weight and cost, with some quality factors thrown in.

You choose what you want rather than trying to find someone else's choice that comes close.

Cold weather you need to insulate your battery, do not allow it to freeze, also be aware that a battery fully charged when warm can become dangerously overcharged if allowed to become very cold, which reduces total capacity. Charge inside, take outside and ride right away, if you instead let sit for several hours in the cold, might be a pile of ashes when you come back out.

Picking the right vendor is an issue, but it might help if you could talk to somebody who spent several years researching who is good, who is cheap, who just plain sucks, and who is honest and reliable, according to not just a few but many dozens of real user reports spread over several years.

I am not mechanically inclined AT ALL and the conversion was easy. DIY mid-mount is significantly more complex than hub drive, requires a roughly $30 tool, but not that hard.

Also, greetings from a former Buckeye transplanted to the Sunshine state.


Hello fellow Buckeye. Thanks for the reply. I checked out the conversion kits at Luna Cycle. I like the idea; just not sure about execution.
 
Gator, there are other Vendors you should check out.

Highly recommend Paul at em3ev. You should work with a dealer who is honest and reliable.
 
Looks like a pretty sophisticated, well engineered battery pack. The kits are competitive also.
 
Gator-Have you considered looking at the Surface604 Boar (for riders up to 6'6") or the Juiced Rip Current XL??

I like that beefy look. That model seems a little small for a daily commute of 22 miles. What ever I end up with, I would like to have a set of front and back racks that look as tough as those.
 
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