Watch your dropouts. Use anti-turn washers with torque arms.
My motors currently have torque washers, but no torque arms because the axle only gets torqued one way and gets jammed in the dropouts.
Regenerating hub motors need torque arms because the axle gets slammed both ways which eventually loosens up the axle nuts, then your nuts fall off.
You may still have frame failure. The twisting force in the frame's dropouts is way beyond limitations.
The twisting force on the axle is related directly to the torque of the motor (plus the measly bit the human adds) and there's A LOT More torque per Watt being doled out by a mid drive motor.
Generally stay far away from hub-drives.
I like my hub drive for its simplicity and easy maintenance.
I don't have and mountains to climb, so I have no need for a mid-drive.
Voltbike also sells the Enduro,..
It's essentially the same ebike that I have with a mid-drive for only $400 more.
The 500 Watt motor has WAY more torque than my 500 Watt hub motor and would stress the dropouts more.
And I simply don't want a mid-drive ebike!!
I don't want to have to pedal, and you have to on a mid-drive or you'll tear up your driveline and stress the hell out of your motor.
A hub-drive isn't something that is just "good enough" for me, I prefer it.
I would have paid $400 more for the hub drive.
What is cool about torque sensors is that you push your foot to go, instead of using a thumb or twist pressure you use foot pressure.
What's cool about not pedaling is that I need no sensors at all, except my Hal sensor throttle.
I didn't bother connecting the PAS sensor when I installed a KT controller and display on my Et.Cycle, and I turn it off when I ride my Outback.
If I had a torque sensor, I'd attach it to my handlebars and use it as a throttle to control my ebike.
(Apparently that has been done.)
I never wanted an electric bike.
I wanted a street legal Enduro style motorcycle like the Honda XR200R that I had in 1984, but a motorcycle costs 3-10 times as much, plus at least $1200 a year for insurance.
Plus licensing, fuel, riding gear, maintenance, speeding and trespassing tickets.
And I wouldn't feel comfortable riding no-hands knowing that I'm risking an Expensive dangerous driving fine.
I'm OK with only being allowed to go 20 mph.
I have fun, I get off my ass and outta the house, but unfortunately it is more addictive than smoking Vados.
I spent ~$3000 in 6-7 years growing my own Vado. I remember spending $69 for three Saltwater OG Kush seeds that all died.
But I've only been in the ebike game for 2 years and 3 months and have spent over $9000 CAD on my e-bikes and all the fun stuff to go along with it.
My only worse addiction is my smoking
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, but I but native cigarettes and only spend a few hundred dollars a year.
I wonder what's going to kill me first?
My smoking, or my ebike?
Probably both, because I smoke while I'm riding, and when I light my cigarettes I take both hands off the handlebars and both eyes off the road.
Something is bound to go wrong, but I'm pretty good at crashing too.
Even better than Stephan.
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