Has anyone used Garmin Edge 130 with a Giant e-bike with RideControl One remote?

Hmmm, may need or should I say, want to go shopping.

My "non-ANT" RideControl remote was replaced on warranty and the new one is ANT+ capable. :D
I'd like to have more data about my rides so a Garmin Edge may be in the works.

It sucks that we can't just use the Giant App, but that's the way it is...
 
RandallS said:
Hmmm, may need or should I say, want to go shopping.

My "non-ANT" RideControl remote was replaced on warranty and the new one is ANT+ capable. :D
I'd like to have more data about my rides so a Garmin Edge may be in the works.

It sucks that we can't just use the Giant App, but that's the way it is...
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I "think" were I to do it again, I might have taken a harder look at the 830 for one reason only.
It has a touch screen unlike my 530. That makes mapping a route on the device much easier when you can scroll and click on a location for destination.
Originally I panned on that because I wear gloves, but in the summer the pinkies are exposed.
That said I've done routes on the PC and uploaded them.
Maybe it doesn't matter.
 
RandallS said:
Hmmm, may need or should I say, want to go shopping.

My "non-ANT" RideControl remote was replaced on warranty and the new one is ANT+ capable. :D
I'd like to have more data about my rides so a Garmin Edge may be in the works.

It sucks that we can't just use the Giant App, but that's the way it is...
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Jacek is using now Garmin Edge 530 with E-Bike Edge Multifield datafield on RideControl One (2020) and is enchanted. All necessary e-bike data are there. Connection with Strava is automatic.

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Funny to think all e-bikes report average rider's power by taking the average between pedalling and coasting... :D Specialized, too.
 
DaveMatthews said:
I "think" were I to do it again, I might have taken a harder look at the 830 for one reason only.
It has a touch screen unlike my 530. That makes mapping a route on the device much easier when you can scroll and click on a location for destination.
Originally I panned on that because I wear gloves, but in the summer the pinkies are exposed.
That said I've done routes on the PC and uploaded them.
Maybe it doesn't matter.
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After additional time to think - are you still thinking 830 over 530?
Gotta spend some of the money I've saved by buying the cheaper ride.
 
RandallS said:
After additional time to think - are you still thinking 830 over 530?
Gotta spend some of the money I've saved by buying the cheaper ride.
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Get yourself a Wahoo ELEMNT, Randall :) I would say the less expensive Bolt v2 is even more modern than the "better" Roam I own.
(You need large solid buttons not a touchscreen during Canadian winters. Easy setup from a smartphone rules!)
 
RandallS said:
After additional time to think - are you still thinking 830 over 530?
Gotta spend some of the money I've saved by buying the cheaper ride.
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Yup. Were I to do it again I'd go 830. Easier to setup for data fields than the 530, and for creating a route on the fly without a PC.
I would still have gotten the remote as well because it keeps my hands on the grips.
 
@RandallS: Just to summarize the options:
  • Garmin 530 is button operated. The buttons are small and as Dave said it is difficult to configure the device with the buttons
  • Garmin 830 is a touchscreen device. As Garmin Edge is basically being configured on the device, it is easier to set it up by the touchscreen (and the on-the-fly navigation is possible, Dave again). However, you'd rather need to ride in touchscreen sensitive gloves
  • Wahoo Roam is operated with large, solid, and reliable buttons. All device configuration is done on a smartphone. (It pays its dividend to carry a smartphone in your pocket on the ride if you use a Wahoo but it is not mandatory).
  • Wahoo Bolt v2 is just missing some LEDs next to the display, making the device smaller. All other features are the same as in the Roam. There is newer electronics in Bolt v2, for example the charging port is USB-C while the Roam uses the micro-USB.
By functionality:
The greatest feature of Garmin Edge is the Climb Pro, which is especially useful for road cyclists. That feature tells you everything about future and current climbs on your trip.
Planning a route on a fly with Wahoo is the best done with a smartphone, and that's a single con of the device (you can plan such route solely on the device but only by choosing a location on the map -- not by a street address).

If I could choose again that would be the Bolt v2 because I'd like to charge the device with one of my many USB-C chargers. I would hardly lose any capability compared to the Roam, and Bolt v2 is less expensive.

I was attracted to Wahoo by my gravel cycling buddies who all are the brand fans. "If you are more for touring then for the performance cycling, Wahoo would be a better choice" was their comment. I learned how good the Bolt v2 was from "that woman who beats me", our performance gravel cycling friend who acquired the bike GPS computer as the last person in the group. On the other hand, my brother uses the 530 on his Trance E+ and is happy.
 
OK, I'm new to all this ANT+ stuff. I have a 2020 Trance E. Yesterday, I rode with a buddy who bought a 2021 and he had a Garmin unit that displayed battery life. Personally, I don't like displays because I crash way too much but I'd love to know battery life on a granular level (as reported by the app). What is the most economical Garmin (or any brand) display that I can purchase? How do I absolutely know I have ANT+? Thanks for your replies.
 
As is my way, I still have not made a decision.
I currently use my older Samsung S7 as my device, but as I'm about to drop a significant amount on a more modern phone, I am loath to put a $1000+ device on my handlebars again.

@DaveMatthews - so if you had to do it again, you'd do an 830 over the 530.
I am leaning that way too - but am not sure if I want the MTB Bundle or not.

The Bolt2 V2, is not out of the question either as it's 1/2 the price.

Back to Garmin - the MTB Bundle Includes:
- Edge device (830 or 530)
- Mountain bike mount
- Standard mount
- Edge remote
- Silicone case
- Speed sensor
- Tether
- USB cable
- Documentation

It's $80 extra on the 530 and $100 extra on the 830.
To be honest I'm not sure if I need the mounts as I'd likely be looking at a Top Cap twist mount anyways.
But I suppose have extra mounts wouldn't hurt in a N+1 scenario.

My real questions for you (and others) is this:
With ANT+ and LEV sensors, do you really need a Speed Sensor?
How are the buttons on a 530 and/or the Remote with gloves on?

Finally, how's the visibility of the display with your sunglasses on - or when in trees with variable lighting? (Lot's of negative comments in the Garmin forums.)
My vision is poor and about to splurge on some photochromic prescription glasses suitable for riding, with progressive lenses.
My single vision sunglasses are fine for general use +driving and golfing, but not for dealing with screens on small electronic devices ( I can barely deal with Smartphones).

I may just wait for the glasses and then do some real world testing, but am interested in other's experiences.

TIA
 
RandallS said:
The Bolt2 V2, is not out of the question either as it's 1/2 the price.
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Not really. Bolt V2 is close to 530 regarding the price.

RandallS said:
With ANT+ and LEV sensors, do you really need a Speed Sensor?
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All you need is the LEV sensor. The Speed Sensor is redundant as it is meant for non-LEV capable ANT+ compability. My brother has assured me it is true (he rides a Trance E+ and owns a 530).

P.S. I'm operating the Roam buttons even in thick skiing gloves!
 
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RandallS said:
As is my way, I still have not made a decision.
I currently use my older Samsung S7 as my device, but as I'm about to drop a significant amount on a more modern phone, I am loath to put a $1000+ device on my handlebars again.

@DaveMatthews - so if you had to do it again, you'd do an 830 over the 530.
I am leaning that way too - but am not sure if I want the MTB Bundle or not.

The Bolt2 V2, is not out of the question either as it's 1/2 the price.

Back to Garmin - the MTB Bundle Includes:
- Edge device (830 or 530)
- Mountain bike mount
- Standard mount
- Edge remote
- Silicone case
- Speed sensor
- Tether
- USB cable
- Documentation

It's $80 extra on the 530 and $100 extra on the 830.
To be honest I'm not sure if I need the mounts as I'd likely be looking at a Top Cap twist mount anyways.
But I suppose have extra mounts wouldn't hurt in a N+1 scenario.

My real questions for you (and others) is this:
With ANT+ and LEV sensors, do you really need a Speed Sensor?
How are the buttons on a 530 and/or the Remote with gloves on?

Finally, how's the visibility of the display with your sunglasses on - or when in trees with variable lighting? (Lot's of negative comments in the Garmin forums.)
My vision is poor and about to splurge on some photochromic prescription glasses suitable for riding, with progressive lenses.
My single vision sunglasses are fine for general use +driving and golfing, but not for dealing with screens on small electronic devices ( I can barely deal with Smartphones).

I may just wait for the glasses and then do some real world testing, but am interested in other's experiences.

TIA
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Yes, as @Stefan Mikes says, the speed sensor is completely unnecessary unless you want to use it on an acoustic bike.
The two reasons I'd consider an 830 over the 530 are that the 830 is easier to setup/program, and it is easier to create a route on the fly. Both are simply because of the touch screen.
That touch screen may be a bit fiddly or useless with gloves, but here I'd get up to 6 - 8 months of riding a year with open finger style gloves maybe? Or at least not cold enough to take the glove off for those times required.
The buttons on the 530 are "OK" with gloves that are not too thick. With my new thick heated gloves not so much. The buttons on the remote seem to be fine with thick or thin, or at least better than the device buttons.
I only really use two of the three buttons on the remote. The one that starts/stops recording the ride, and the button that scrolls through the pages of info and maps.
No question I would def do the remote again. I find that keeping my hands on the grips is priceless, and there is rarely a need to stop and fiddle with the device.
I like the "idea" of the MTB mount. I used the included Out Front mount for a few months and it seemed fine, but a movie kept running in my head of me crashing somehow and snapping it off. I switched to using the Standard mount and it sits happily and securely beside the stem on the right side of the bar.



Not sure I need the MTB mount at all really.
Haven't felt the need for the silicone case either.
I haven't used sunglasses, so can't really comment on that, but I'm pretty sure it'll depend on they type of lens.
Following a route on the map would be the only info on the device display that would require an extremely clear view, so I can identify with your concern with the sunglasses. I haven't used that feature as much as I thought I would TBH.
Overall I'm happy with the purchase. The battery in the 530 will outlast a smartphone twice over I'm sure, and I have no reason to think the 830 would be any different.
 
DaveMatthews said:
Yes, as @Stefan Mikes says, the speed sensor is completely unnecessary unless you want to use it on an acoustic bike.
The two reasons I'd consider an 830 over the 530 are that the 830 is easier to setup/program, and it is easier to create a route on the fly. Both are simply because of the touch screen.
That touch screen may be a bit fiddly or useless with gloves, but here I'd get up to 6 - 8 months of riding a year with open finger style gloves maybe? Or at least not cold enough to take the glove off for those times required.
The buttons on the 530 are "OK" with gloves that are not too thick. With my new thick heated gloves not so much. The buttons on the remote seem to be fine with thick or thin, or at least better than the device buttons.
I only really use two of the three buttons on the remote. The one that starts/stops recording the ride, and the button that scrolls through the pages of info and maps.
No question I would def do the remote again. I find that keeping my hands on the grips is priceless, and there is rarely a need to stop and fiddle with the device.
I like the "idea" of the MTB mount. I used the included Out Front mount for a few months and it seemed fine, but a movie kept running in my head of me crashing somehow and snapping it off. I switched to using the Standard mount and it sits happily and securely beside the stem on the right side of the bar.



Not sure I need the MTB mount at all really.
Haven't felt the need for the silicone case either.
I haven't used sunglasses, so can't really comment on that, but I'm pretty sure it'll depend on they type of lens.
Following a route on the map would be the only info on the device display that would require an extremely clear view, so I can identify with your concern with the sunglasses. I haven't used that feature as much as I thought I would TBH.
Overall I'm happy with the purchase. The battery in the 530 will outlast a smartphone twice over I'm sure, and I have no reason to think the 830 would be any different.
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Dave,
Following your advice, my brother is using the 530 on his Trance E+ and he is very happy!
He is jealous that I use a Roam, however. I'm his big brother, so that's quite understandable ;) I am jealous our former riding buddy "That Woman Who Beats me" uses a Wahoo Bolt V2 :) So complicated!
 
DaveMatthews said:
Yes, as @Stefan Mikes says, the speed sensor is completely unnecessary unless you want to use it on an acoustic bike.
The two reasons I'd consider an 830 over the 530 are that the 830 is easier to setup/program, and it is easier to create a route on the fly. Both are simply because of the touch screen.
That touch screen may be a bit fiddly or useless with gloves, but here I'd get up to 6 - 8 months of riding a year with open finger style gloves maybe? Or at least not cold enough to take the glove off for those times required.
The buttons on the 530 are "OK" with gloves that are not too thick. With my new thick heated gloves not so much. The buttons on the remote seem to be fine with thick or thin, or at least better than the device buttons.
I only really use two of the three buttons on the remote. The one that starts/stops recording the ride, and the button that scrolls through the pages of info and maps.
No question I would def do the remote again. I find that keeping my hands on the grips is priceless, and there is rarely a need to stop and fiddle with the device.
I like the "idea" of the MTB mount. I used the included Out Front mount for a few months and it seemed fine, but a movie kept running in my head of me crashing somehow and snapping it off. I switched to using the Standard mount and it sits happily and securely beside the stem on the right side of the bar.



Not sure I need the MTB mount at all really.
Haven't felt the need for the silicone case either.
I haven't used sunglasses, so can't really comment on that, but I'm pretty sure it'll depend on they type of lens.
Following a route on the map would be the only info on the device display that would require an extremely clear view, so I can identify with your concern with the sunglasses. I haven't used that feature as much as I thought I would TBH.
Overall I'm happy with the purchase. The battery in the 530 will outlast a smartphone twice over I'm sure, and I have no reason to think the 830 would be any different.
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Are those standard bars on your Stance?
 
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