getting a regular bike after my battery fails?

[fooferdoggie]

If he has a mid-motor, you aren't going to fit a regular bottom bracket and crankset to the bike.

right is a mid drive so no changing it it has no bottom bracket

 

[Base]

there are a few companies who develop just e-bike frames and use a custom motor dummy bb shell if a customer really wants a non-e-bike version

 

[Rás Cnoic]

Yup. Actually, I was wondering the opposite… What about “un”-powering his Trek? Is there any reason not to do that? I mean, in the case of my fat e-bike that would result in a useless bike, but can his Trek be ridden without power? I presume foofer already thought of that.

Fazua gets a lot of stick on here but they had one genius tech idea with the Ride 50 motor system; it was designed so you could easily remove both the motor and battery and stick on a cover and so ride your gravel bike as a lighter, analogue bike.

 

[fooferdoggie]

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there are a few companies who develop just e-bike frames and use a custom motor dummy bb shell if a customer really wants a non-e-bike version

my bike is just too heavy and the wider tires really slow it down. it would only save a little money doing that.

 

[Rás Cnoic]

my bike is just too heavy and the wider tires really slow it down. it would only save a little money doing that.

plus, I think if you are riding without a motor & battery, you want the enjoyable ride of a light bike when possible.

 

[fooferdoggie]

Fazua gets a lot of stick on here but they had one genius tech idea with the Ride 50 motor system; it was designed so you could easily remove both the motor and battery and stick on a cover and so ride your gravel bike as a lighter, analogue bike. View attachment 204480

that would be the way to go if I had the spare money. but its not really a commuter bike either.

 

[fooferdoggie]

plus, I think if you are riding without a motor & battery, you want the enjoyable ride of a light bike when possible.

god yes. even without the motor, the bike would be over 35 pounds. my first e bike, another bosch bith with the same weight but with 1.5" 700c tires is a much zippier bike overall its not as fast but it accelerates so much better the the trek ever did. since I am in no rush I can hunt around. I can keep the trek for when I need more. its good I have so many components. the frame is going to be the only real cost. I really want through axle so that limits a lot of frames. I could I could live without them but its so nice o have them.

 

[RunForTheHills]

The newer Surly Disc Trucker frame does have through axle, but the one I bought six years ago does not. I don't know when they switched over. The trucker is a steel frame and has long chainstays and relaxed head tube angle, so it won't be the lightest, most agile frame you can buy. It's super comfortable though. I usually load it up with a pannier with my laptop and lunch when I am commuting anyway. With the triple on my LHT, I can always find a gear that works. I have a 2 X 11 setup on my Disc Trucker. That bike also has a motor, but there are plenty of gears to choose from.

 

[fooferdoggie]

The newer Surly Disc Trucker frame does have through axle, but the one I bought six years ago does not. I don't know when they switched over. The trucker is a steel frame and has long chainstays and relaxed head tube angle, so it won't be the lightest, most agile frame you can buy. It's super comfortable though. I usually load it up with a pannier with my laptop and lunch when I am commuting anyway. With the triple on my LHT, I can always find a gear that works. I have a 2 X 11 setup on my Disc Trucker. That bike also has a motor, but there are plenty of gears to choose from.

yes it seems a good choice. i will see what I can find used first.
One thing I need is some kind of power meter. its been a great tool to tell me how much energy I have and how well I am doing. You can do that somewhat by speed average on an analog bike, but its not the same thing.

 

[RunForTheHills]

Power meter pedals are probably going to cost as much as the frame, unless you can find those used too.

 

[fooferdoggie]

Power meter pedals are probably going to cost as much as the frame, unless you can find those used too.

I know there are other ways like crank arms and bottom brackets. I don't need great I just want basic info. I don't want to change pedals.

 

[gromike]

Be nice to ride your route with a decent borrowed bike before you spend the real money and see if you like the experience.
However, if you buy a really nice pedal bike and don't use it, well, they make great wall art:

 

[RunForTheHills]

You could rig something with an Erider torque sensor bottom bracket and a CAv3. It would just be running one six pin julet extension cable to the CAv3 and hooking a battery to the CA. Special cranks are going to limit your crank choices. Maybe you can find one that works, but I don't think it would be much cheaper. Most power meter pedals are clips, but I saw one set of flat MTB pedals with a power meter. They were north of $1000 though.

It is not something I have cared too much about, but if I were to get one it would probably be the pedals for the simple installation and link them to my Garmin watch that I already wear. Or get a Garmin Edge If I wanted to see a realtime display. You probably have enough experience that you could estimate your power output at any given moment.

 

[fooferdoggie]

Be nice to ride your route with a decent borrowed bike before you spend the real money and see if you like the experience.
However, if you buy a really nice pedal bike and don't use it, well, they make great wall art:
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I planned on renting or borrowing a bike first. I have ridden my commute years ago when I was much sicker on a road bike and two recumbents and two e bikes so I know exactly whats involved and how much it takes to do it.

 

[fooferdoggie]

You could rig something with an Erider torque sensor bottom bracket and a CAv3. It would just be running one six pin julet extension cable to the CAv3 and hooking a battery to the CA. Special cranks are going to limit your crank choices. Maybe you can find one that works, but I don't think it would be much cheaper. Most power meter pedals are clips, but I saw one set of flat MTB pedals with a power meter. They were north of $1000 though.

It is not something I have cared too much about, but if I were to get one it would probably be the pedals for the simple installation and link them to my Garmin watch that I already wear. Or get a Garmin Edge If I wanted to see a realtime display. You probably have enough experience that you could estimate your power output at any given moment.

no with me its not that easy. Sometimes it feels easy that day only to look at my average and it sucks. or it can feel hard and I don't think I am doing well and I am. part of that's a e bike. but still its good to know it shows me how food effects my riding and it really effects my riding.

 

[kevinmccune]

My wife still has her Electra Ed Roth Rat Rod chopper bicycle. It's basically a fancy Townie with a Nexus 3 speed. I took it to the store yesterday and I found myself wondering why the PAS wasn't kicking in! I doesn't have a motor! Once I remembered what I was on I actually enjoyed riding it. Regular, analog bicycles are still fun to ride for me.pushing

I have zero experience with hills. I lived in central PA for awhile and was shocked when I saw their version of road bikes with the huge gear clusters! Only bikes I had when I lived their was a bmx bike and a beach cruiser with a 7 speed Nexus. Neither could climb the hill going back to my house that was on the top of the hill. I had to do the push of shame!as pedals

never be ashamed of pushing,my knees and joints are starting to really hurt now,the hills are steep and I try to hard sometimes,maybe I need to not be ashamed and up the boost-as much as I hatanswere to admit it,my balance and joints may get me off a 2 wheeler,cant find a reverse trike I can afford,I can get a middrive quad that has pedals(might look into that) the 3 wheeled "piaggio"that I could afford doesn't have pedals,.