Flying V

[Base]

PONbike (C'dale) released a new commuter bike, https://www.cannondale.com/en-us/bikes/electric/e-urban/flyingv

Gates, Bosch SX (or sprint) DU, combined with 400wh battery.

Full carbon frame. in real money FlyingV 1 (€ 5899) en FlyingV 2 (€ 4999). and 6749 US dollars for the USA version.

18+ kg's. For a full carbon bike with low cap battery a bit on the heavy side. Looks nice though.

 

[stompandgo]

Carbon fiber fenders.

I'm happy to see another higher end urban bike on the market.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

What a coincidence another brand has followed the suit after Specialized started a new class of e-bikes

Just a 520 Wh battery, carbon, 18 kg, 50 Nm...

 

[Base]

we see a few of those here in the Netherlands

E-flitzer from Winora at 999 with X35

Batavus Razor E-go with Bosch SX and 400wh

and my 2019 C'dale with alu frame and 500wh battery weighs with heavier wheels and full-fenders+ rack and accessories also 18kg.

I really do like the design of this bike, will be a blast to ride.

 

[BlackHand]

That Flying V is a nice looking bike and looks ready to go for full urban commuting. But, I don't think the combination of the Nexus 5 and Sprint(class 3) drive unit makes much sense.

They've geared it so a cadence of 85 gets you to the EU 25kmh cutoff. You would have to pedal at a cadence of 109 to even reach the class 1 20mph cutoff, and I can't even calculate what you would need to get to 28mph!

 

[Jeremy McCreary]

That Flying V is a nice looking bike and looks ready to go for full urban commuting. But, I don't think the combination of the Nexus 5 and Sprint(class 3) drive unit makes much sense.

They've geared it so a cadence of 85 gets you to the EU 25kmh cutoff. You would have to pedal at a cadence of 109 to even reach the class 1 20mph cutoff, and I can't even calculate what you would need to get to 28mph!

View attachment 201952

Good pickup. Could the Sprint motor bring other advantages to an EU Flying V restricted to 25 kph? Perhaps some added torque to deal with the weight during acceleration?

A Flying V for the US market would clearly need a different IGH if not a derailleur. To hit 28 mph (45 kph) at the same 85 rpm cadence, the final drive ratio in top gear would have to be 45 / 25 = 1.8 times higher than it is now.

Assuming that bottom gear's final drive ratio is already well-chosen, a 28 mph IGH would need a Rohloff-like internal ratio range, no?

 

[stompandgo]

Agreed. That's not US city bike speed. Changing that setup would not be simple or cheap. Maybe they'll take the Tesoro approach and make a Flying V 1/2/3 with 2 and 3 having derailleurs.