Ebike touring recommendations 120 km a day range with a 150 kg (bike+ rider luggage) and 750-800 wh battery or 2 batteries 750-800 wh batteries

[warek437]

Ebike touring recommendations 120 km a day range with a 150 kg (bike+ rider luggage) and 750-800 wh battery or 2 batteries 750-800 wh batteries.

My first choice is Riese and Muller Charger 5, chain and cassette if it has the range. It is expensive but in my price range. My second choice appears to be Focus Aventura 2. Other bike brands for sale in Australia include Kalkhoff, Orbea, Specialized, Trek, Riese and Muller, Moustache, Cannondale, Cube.
Would a single battery be enough?

Background

I am in Australia and have a 2018-year, Gazelle City Zen bike. Bosch performance line motor with 500 WH power tube battery. It has 10 speed cassette and a 15-tooth single cog on motor. Currently I use it on the rail trails and often tow a 27 kg dog for trips up to 25 kms. It has been great to ride, very stable and comfortable. Now the battery life has a range of less than 70 km when unladen and using the two lower power levels and riding on fairly easy terrain. I am a heavy rider and weigh about 106 kg and am 185 CMS tall. The bike has a travelled 6000 km since new. A second battery is an option but bike is rated to 130 kgs, including bike rider and luggage. It seems very strong and well built and would probably cope with the excess weight but if there are other more suitable bikes then I am happy to upgrade.

I am planning to do some 4-7 day Ebike tours later this year and want to be have a daily range of 120km+ I will stay in motels and pubs and will not need to carry much luggage. Usually, I would not ride 100 km+ per day with luggage, but I am a member of a long-distance cycling club, and due to age and health issues I am unable to ride my normal non Ebike fast enough and long enough to join the group rides. There are some ride options now where the administration is allowing a social ride component as part of the long-distance rides and multi day tours. I would enjoy being involved even though I would not officially finish the ride I would be covered by my member ride insurance

I will take a pair of panniers and expect that with clothes, food, few tools and spares, battery charger, I guess equipment/luggage will weigh 15 kgs plus weight of rider. In theory I am thinking I want a bike that is rated to 150-160 kg that is good to ride. Rides will be on sealed minor roads and smooth gravel rail trails and bike paths. I know the RM bikes have models rated at 160kg and the Focus Aventura 2 is rated at 150kg

Thanks for any long distance Ebike recommendations?

 

[Aushiker]

I currently do mainly off-bitumen bikepacking rides with my Riese and Müller SuperCharger GT with a Rohloff IGH. I have no concerns riding 120 km on a charge, and in fact generally set my safety margin at 150 km. With hindsight and now experience of eBikes and well @Stefan Mikes endless advocacy for Specialized bikes , if I were in the market today for a new touring bike, I would seriously consider a Specialized Turbo Creo Comp 2 E5 (note that I have a preference for drop-bar bikes) with suitable modifications including a rear rack, a Bike Bag Dude frame bag, Orlieb Fork Packs or similar, 700 x 47c tyres and two range extender batteries (the framebag is custom made so would have it made to accomodate the mounted batteries)

Alternatively, a Specialised Turbo Vado SL 2 5.00, similarly specced to the Creo, would also be on my short list.

As an aside, if a second-hand Riese and Müller SuperCharger GT with a Rohloff IGH 53 cm (done approximately 2,275 km) appeals, there is one in Perth that would be happy to find a new owner

 

[Base]

it depends on what's available there. I was thinking in the direction of for example Tout-Terrain e-xplorer, idworx oPinion ET, Santos traveler+ or Koga e-worldtraveller. depending on your riding style these would fit the bill (besides the R&M) for the brands with which I've worked in the bicycle travel shops I've worked in.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

it depends on what's available there

Did you check it before you wrote your post? Why do you think R&M is so popular in Australia? Have you checked why Specialized Creo 2 or Vado 2 SL were even mentioned by Aushiker, Base?