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It's been a long time since biology class, but isn't this mixing chromosomes and dna? We do share a large part of our dna with chimps, but only 1/2 of our chromosomes with each parent?

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Exactly. We don't "share 98% of our DNA" with chimps, it's 98% similar. Also genes can be more turned on then others or even dormant.
 
It's been a long time since biology class, but isn't this mixing chromosomes and dna? We do share a large part of our dna with chimps, but only 1/2 of our chromosomes with each parent?

Anyway, back to ebikes...
It might be mixing them up, but is it mixing them up?

"only 1/2 of our chromosomes with each parent?"
Good question!

From your link:
"Chromosomes come in matching pairs, one pair from each parent. Humans, for example, have a total of 46 chromosomes, 23 from the mother and another 23 from the father. With two sets of chromosomes, children inherit two copies of each gene, one from each parent."

...and so the difference between siblings is about getting different chromosomes if children ALL get one copy of each gene from each parent, and each get 23 chromosomes from mom and 23 from dad?
 
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I don't know either way, you could very likely be an imbecile.
Well, then I'd have to think about the probability of a imbecile using a technical word that's a mainstay of the particular branch of science, in proper context. "Very likely" an imbecile seems a shade hopeful.
 
Well, then I'd have to think about the probability of a imbecile using a technical word that's a mainstay of the particular branch of science, in proper context. "Very likely" an imbecile seems a shade hopeful.
Figuring out that probability is a bit too much for a dummy like me but I'm sure the possibility exists. Alright time for a bit if family time, everyone have a good night, cheers!
 
Seems like the facts are actually opinions sometimes ... like every time.

You say they are not "shared", they are just "similar".

The geneticists are using words like 'shared" and "identical".




and this
"The main genetic difference between humans and chimps is that humans have 23 pairs of chromosomes whereas chimps have 24 pairs of chromosomes in their genomes. Two ancestral chromosome pairs fuse at their telomeres to form human chromosome 2 during evolution.


Humans and chimps are two species that are very closely related to each other. Humans and chimps have 1.2% of non-coding DNA difference in their genomes that are responsible for all the unmatching characteristics of humans and chimps. "

"Lining up 3 billion bits of genetic code, the chimp genome team determined that 96 percent of the protein-coding genes in both chimps and humans were identical, while in some stretches of DNA where genes either regulate other genes or whose function is unknown, as much as 99 percent of the genetic material in both is identical, the scientists concluded."

"identical"
 
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Seems like the facts are actually opinions sometimes ... like every time.

You say they are not "shared", they are just "similar".

The geneticists are using words like 'shared" and "identical".




and this
"The main genetic difference between humans and chimps is that humans have 23 pairs of chromosomes whereas chimps have 24 pairs of chromosomes in their genomes. Two ancestral chromosome pairs fuse at their telomeres to form human chromosome 2 during evolution.


Humans and chimps are two species that are very closely related to each other. Humans and chimps have 1.2% of non-coding DNA difference in their genomes that are responsible for all the unmatching characteristics of humans and chimps. "

"Lining up 3 billion bits of genetic code, the chimp genome team determined that 96 percent of the protein-coding genes in both chimps and humans were identical, while in some stretches of DNA where genes either regulate other genes or whose function is unknown, as much as 99 percent of the genetic material in both is identical, the scientists concluded."

"identical"
There is no truth, it's all opinion so that way everyone can believe what they want. As my russian handler taught me....
 
There is no truth, it's all opinion so that way everyone can believe what they want. As my russian handler taught me....
Opinion is not untruth. Weren't we discussing factual matters?
Your facts are very welcome. They just aren't necessarily in agreement with themselves.
 
Maybe it takes a bit more cogitation on how it could be that we could possibly share only 50% with a sibling but 98% with Bobo the Chimp.
Is it a consilience failure?

Please don't despair,
Success is in the air;
It takes a bit of time,
To get from here to there.
 
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There is no truth, it's all opinion so that way everyone can believe what they want. As my russian handler taught me....
Or maybe the hard truth is that it is all opinion.
What is the definition of "gene"?

...and try to remember the ABC's

Is it really fair,
To skip from here to there,
Without first thinking,
Of the Punnet square?
 
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Noooooooooo! Please, no! It isn't about philosophy, after all, is it? Castles built of sand?
Perish the thought!

"“There can be little doubt,” philosopher and biochemist Lenny Moss claimed in 2003, “that the idea of ‘the gene’ has been the central organizing theme of twentieth century biology” (Moss 2003, xiii; cf. Keller 2000, 9). And yet it is clear that the science of genetics never provided one generally accepted definition of the gene. More than a hundred years of genetic research have rather resulted in the proliferation of a variety of gene concepts, which sometimes complement, sometimes contradict each other. Some philosophers and scientists have tried to remedy this situation by reducing this variety of gene concepts, either “vertically” to a fundamental unit, or “horizontally” by subsuming them under a general term. Others have opted for more pluralist stances. As a consequence, “the gene” has become a hot topic in philosophy of science around which questions of reduction, emergence, or supervenience of concepts and theories (along with the epistemic entities they refer to) are lively debated. So far, however, all attempts to reach a consensus regarding these questions have been unsuccessful."
 

Noooooooooo! Please, no! It isn't about philosophy, after all, is it? Castles built of sand?
Perish the thought!

"“There can be little doubt,” philosopher and biochemist Lenny Moss claimed in 2003, “that the idea of ‘the gene’ has been the central organizing theme of twentieth century biology” (Moss 2003, xiii; cf. Keller 2000, 9). And yet it is clear that the science of genetics never provided one generally accepted definition of the gene. More than a hundred years of genetic research have rather resulted in the proliferation of a variety of gene concepts, which sometimes complement, sometimes contradict each other. Some philosophers and scientists have tried to remedy this situation by reducing this variety of gene concepts, either “vertically” to a fundamental unit, or “horizontally” by subsuming them under a general term. Others have opted for more pluralist stances. As a consequence, “the gene” has become a hot topic in philosophy of science around which questions of reduction, emergence, or supervenience of concepts and theories (along with the epistemic entities they refer to) are lively debated. So far, however, all attempts to reach a consensus regarding these questions have been unsuccessful."
Exactly so there is no difference between us and the tree frog.
 
I stopped dining out Jan 2020, before when they told us to go to Chinatowns.
No take out. No order in. That's all done forever for me. Grow me some wheat grass, do my yogas. Stay Aum.
 
I stopped dining out Jan 2020, before when they told us to go to Chinatowns.
No take out. No order in. That's all done forever for me. Grow me some wheat grass, do my yogas. Stay Aum.
Before they told you? Oh okay I got you. I still get takeout. I will assume that you were being sarcastic with saying it was done forever for you but that's fine. I know this is where we point out where not everybody got 100% of everything right so therefore we're all equally wrong regarding this issue.....So in other words if somebody was trying to prevent some cracker from going and beating an Asian with a pipe and maybe that wasn't perfect advice that's equivalent to somebody saying it's going to disappear like magic and maybe I should insert a giant very powerful light bulb up my rectum and then dig out a beer bong from my way back days and guzzle a gallon of bleach or two.....
 
@Why you so insecure with the name calling like a child?
Barry I will give you this you are entertaining. You call people insecure and accuse them of being like a child. The last post I just read you were calling whole groups of people liars. There you are casting the first stone..... bahahaha.
 
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