bike that has: 8 speed internal rear hub, Gates belt drive, mid motor, long range, comfortable!
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Ravi Kempaiah
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Ravi Kempaiah
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Nova Haibike
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The only way you'll get that kind of range is with two batteries, so add in another $1K to your budget.
Nova Haibike
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"Under optimal conditions." If you are a lightweight rider, if you aren't carrying much, if there is no wind, if it is not cold, if the terrain is gentle, if you use a low level of assist, then yes, the Bulls with its larger-than-average battery can probably go 200 kms on a single battery.
Bruce Arnold
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What @Nova Haibike said. I'd like to add to that. Lightweight, check. No wind, check. (Tail wind, +1.) Gentle terrain, check. Low level of assist, check.
Add in: Low speed. If you go over 30 kph, the motor has to work progressively harder to overcome air resistance, draining more battery. It's a rapidly increasing curve, such that the increase from 30 to 40 kph will take double the watts than the increase from 20 to 30 kph (rough estimate. YMMV.) So to get 200 km, you might have to go 15 to 30 kph the whole time.
Lots of hours in the saddle, not counting time off the bike for filling up water bottles, grabbing a quick bite to eat, rapt contemplation of the wonders of nature, etc., makes for a long day.
I used to do those kinds of days when I was younger, fitter, pre-COPD, and enjoyed what I gather they now call bike-packing. I called it bike camping. Honestly, if I still had the legs and lungs for long days like that, I would use a lightweight touring bike instead of an ebike. Just sayin'. I totally get the appeal of ebikes, and can imagine wanting to use them for really long rides. Maybe there's a place on the continuum between that younger, fitter me and the current, older, health-challenged me, where the tipping point would have been long days on ebike or no long days at all.
Add in: Low speed. If you go over 30 kph, the motor has to work progressively harder to overcome air resistance, draining more battery. It's a rapidly increasing curve, such that the increase from 30 to 40 kph will take double the watts than the increase from 20 to 30 kph (rough estimate. YMMV.) So to get 200 km, you might have to go 15 to 30 kph the whole time.
Lots of hours in the saddle, not counting time off the bike for filling up water bottles, grabbing a quick bite to eat, rapt contemplation of the wonders of nature, etc., makes for a long day.
I used to do those kinds of days when I was younger, fitter, pre-COPD, and enjoyed what I gather they now call bike-packing. I called it bike camping. Honestly, if I still had the legs and lungs for long days like that, I would use a lightweight touring bike instead of an ebike. Just sayin'. I totally get the appeal of ebikes, and can imagine wanting to use them for really long rides. Maybe there's a place on the continuum between that younger, fitter me and the current, older, health-challenged me, where the tipping point would have been long days on ebike or no long days at all.
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Yes, fully understand.
Yes, old age has a big roll in my decisions.
I guess it's not that I want to ride 200 kms, it's just knowing that the battery can handle a good ride without running out.
I just don't want to run out of power in the middle of no where!
Thanks for your post.
Yes, old age has a big roll in my decisions.
I guess it's not that I want to ride 200 kms, it's just knowing that the battery can handle a good ride without running out.
I just don't want to run out of power in the middle of no where!
Thanks for your post.
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One of my thoughts is that a 200km range touring bike doesn't necessarily mean you'd use all of that range in one day. There are a lot of great touring opportunities, especially in the western parts of North America, where you might reasonably have 120 or more kms between charging locations. And that distance would most definitely not be flat.
Another of my thoughts is that a decent non-electric touring bike with an internally geared hub will start around $5000.
Another of my thoughts is that a decent non-electric touring bike with an internally geared hub will start around $5000.
Bruce Arnold
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Yeah, me too. With my set-up (Juiced Bikes CrossCurrent S, 17.4 Ah battery), being reasonably careful but using higher levels of assist when desired, I can get easily get 50 miles -- 80 km -- out of a charge. If I'm more conservative, make that 60 mi/96 km. I live in gently rolling terrain, very few steep hills and no long ones. This is 2 days' riding at my current level of fitness, so I have no range anxiety at all.
Drop another 15-20 lbs, and these figures will go up a bit.
I hope this is useful information.
Yes, Very!
I use to race bicycles in the past.
I gave it up in 2004, I still have my racing bike, it's been stored in the basement all these years.
Cannondale team saeca replica.
Full campi record 10 speed!
Very light and very stiff.
I stopped racing and riding because of 3 discs in my neck have no padding left, just bone rubbing on bone.(I need surgery)(not possible in Canada)
Anyway, I bought a Catrike expedition and love It!
Trouble is it's not that safe on the road. Cars seem to still squeeze between me and on coming cars.
Very dangerous.
To get to a bicycle path I need to drive my car about 40kms.
This is why I was thinking it's time for an electric bike.
I use to race bicycles in the past.
I gave it up in 2004, I still have my racing bike, it's been stored in the basement all these years.
Cannondale team saeca replica.
Full campi record 10 speed!
Very light and very stiff.
I stopped racing and riding because of 3 discs in my neck have no padding left, just bone rubbing on bone.(I need surgery)(not possible in Canada)
Anyway, I bought a Catrike expedition and love It!
Trouble is it's not that safe on the road. Cars seem to still squeeze between me and on coming cars.
Very dangerous.
To get to a bicycle path I need to drive my car about 40kms.
This is why I was thinking it's time for an electric bike.
Gator
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Something you might consider; you can always buy a second battery and carry it with you. My bike has a 500 watt, but I can also get a a 300 or 400 if I feel I need a back up. Buying a second battery would open up a lot of options for choice and price range. Just a suggestion. =D
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