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Hi,My first post.I have been learning a lot from this site but also confused a lot. I am an old guy that rode daily until a few years ago.I had a stroke and heart problems.I now want to get back to riding.I know I can ride now but worried about how far. Thats why I decided to go electric. I find so many options on brands ,etc.I want something that pedals close to a normal bike when not using the motor. I would like to stay in the $1000/$1500 area for a first bike .Is that possible ? Any suggestions as to brands,hubs,power,etc. thanks in advance.
 
Are you in an area with a good local bike shop? Most of them will rent you a bike for a day or a weekend to test out, however very few carry sub $2000 ebikes. Those are mostly online only.I can say that the big three Specialized, Giant, and Trek make ebikes that ride like a mechanical bike, rather than like a mini bike like so many 20 inch wheeled ebikes. My turbo como rides just fine without assist on flat land, and it's a 50 pound bike.
 
This is what I ride:


It's a mid drive, and feels very natural - great on hills, too! The dealer network is extensive.

This is another option in your price range:


It's a rear hub drive, and it has a throttle, which may come in handy if you get tired and don't want to pedal.
 
You may want to consider a bike that is approachable, easier to get on and off and easier for balance, like a step through or a bike with 20 tires. I have heard mid drives are smoother to pedal but they are out of my price range and most do not have a throttle. Someone posted info about Ariel C - mid drive, step through frame, nice specs. It was about $. 1700. I think the ride1up 500 step through is nice ($1200)(hub motor). They also offer the slightly cheaper and lighter Core5 without a suspension fork. Another nice affordable step through is the Espin Flow. I have heard some older people like the Electric XP, easy to get on and off, sturdy, 4 inch tires, goes up to 28, throttle, shimano shifters, disk brakes. It folds. Decent battery. No suspension but some people add a suspension seat post. Comes assembled. It is only $ 899. I have heard that have a vet discount. I am sure some people will scoff that they are cheap bikes but the people that have them seem to like them. Speed seems easily controlled. Comes with rack, fenders and lights. The Rad runner is also a popular inexpensive 20 inch tire bike. Under $1000, and they also have discounts. I think it is heavy 60-65 lbs.
 
I had some similar health issues but have come back mostly by riding analog bikes. Climbing hills is where I really needed the most help and where I decided ebikes were in my future. I spent 3 years waiting for Trek to build the support infrastructure and an evolved group of ebikes to pick from. My Allant +7 is 47.5 lbs but rides much lighter than that. I ride the majority of time with the motor off but when I’m in need, it’s really powerful and smooth. That said, it’s a $3500.00 ebike. Just make sure you test drive as many as you can.
Good luck!
 
This is what I ride:


It's a mid drive, and feels very natural - great on hills, too! The dealer network is extensive.

This is another option in your price range:


It's a rear hub drive, and it has a throttle, which may come in handy if you get tired and don't want to pedal.
I was actually reading about the Aventon Pace 500 and it sounds like a nice bike .
 
You may want to consider a bike that is approachable, easier to get on and off and easier for balance, like a step through or a bike with 20 tires. I have heard mid drives are smoother to pedal but they are out of my price range and most do not have a throttle. Someone posted info about Ariel C - mid drive, step through frame, nice specs. It was about $. 1700. I think the ride1up 500 step through is nice ($1200)(hub motor). They also offer the slightly cheaper and lighter Core5 without a suspension fork. Another nice affordable step through is the Espin Flow. I have heard some older people like the Electric XP, easy to get on and off, sturdy, 4 inch tires, goes up to 28, throttle, shimano shifters, disk brakes. It folds. Decent battery. No suspension but some people add a suspension seat post. Comes assembled. It is only $ 899. I have heard that have a vet discount. I am sure some people will scoff that they are cheap bikes but the people that have them seem to like them. Speed seems easily controlled. Comes with rack, fenders and lights. The Rad runner is also a popular inexpensive 20 inch tire bike. Under $1000, and they also have discounts. I think it is heavy 60-65 lbs.
I also have Ride1 up an my list but I guess they have no dealers and have to be ordered online. The other one I like is the Aventon,
 
I was actually reading about the Aventon Pace 500 and it sounds like a nice bike .
Yes, most Aventon owners love their bikes. I recommended the 350 because the 500 is pretty zippy starting from a stop - many folks find that disconcerting, though I understand there are ways to deal with that.

Check out the Aventon owners forum here for details...
 
It all depends what you're looking for but I might point out that the Allant +7 weighs two lbs less, comes with controller, front & rear lighting, rack, fenders, Bosch 4th Gen motor (with firmware update coming in the next month), comes assembled, and has a nation-wide network of Trek dealers. And yeah, I know it’s twice the price. Just throwing it out there.👍
 
Yes, most Aventon owners love their bikes. I recommended the 350 because the 500 is pretty zippy starting from a stop - many folks find that disconcerting, though I understand there are ways to deal with that.

Check out the Aventon owners forum here for details...
Thanks,will do.
 
It all depends what you're looking for but I might point out that the Allant +7 weighs two lbs less, comes with controller, front & rear lighting, rack, fenders, Bosch 4th Gen motor (with firmware update coming in the next month), comes assembled, and has a nation-wide network of Trek dealers. And yeah, I know it’s twice the price. Just throwing it out there.👍
I looked up the videos and it sounds like a really nice bike but a little too rich for my first one.I have to see how I do with one before I get into an upper end bike.Thanks for the info.
 
Hi, My first post. I have been learning a lot from this site but also confused a lot. I am an old guy that rode daily until a few years ago. I had a stroke and heart problems. I now want to get back to riding. I know I can ride now but worried about how far. That's why I decided to go electric. I find so many options on brands, etc. I want something that pedals close to a normal bike when not using the motor. I would like to stay in the $1000/$1500 area for a first bike. Is that possible ? Any suggestions as to brands, hubs, power, etc. thanks in advance.

Vince, welcome to EBR... lots of good advice is available on this forum.

Take a look at the Best Affordable EBike reviews on EBR as a good place to start.


Budget-conscious? Here’s our top picks for the best affordable electric bikes of 2020. You can have confidence in the capabilities of these ebikes. You’ll notice that we don’t go too cheap with these winners, because we’ve found that the very cheapest products do not use reliable or replaceable parts, and they usually lack warranty and customer support. Our chosen ebikes have more dependable motors, batteries, and drivetrains. When comparing affordable ebikes, it’s wise to rely on common sense; “you get what you pay for” and “if something seems too good to be true, it probably is”. Our top three picks are summarized below. For more details, including why we chose each model, check out our full list of the best affordable electric bikes.
 
There are other considerations than just the bike itself. Where will you store it? How will you transport it? Most E-bikes weigh 2 - 3 times what a conventional bike does. You may be able to lift a conventional bike onto a vehicle rack, push it up a steep grade or carry it upstairs but perhaps not with a heavier E--bike. Bikes with throttles or walk assist features can be a help with some of these chores. A throttle can also be a safety feature should you have a medical problem while riding. It can get you home if you are unable to pedal for some reason.

Although you may be able to swing your leg over a high bar bike now but consider the future. E-bikes are expensive and you'll want to ride it for as long as possible. A step thru model might be a good choice as a hedge against future health issues.
 
There are other considerations than just the bike itself. Where will you store it? How will you transport it? Most E-bikes weigh 2 - 3 times what a conventional bike does. You may be able to lift a conventional bike onto a vehicle rack, push it up a steep grade or carry it upstairs but perhaps not with a heavier E--bike. Bikes with throttles or walk assist features can be a help with some of these chores. A throttle can also be a safety feature should you have a medical problem while riding. It can get you home if you are unable to pedal for some reason.

Although you may be able to swing your leg over a high bar bike now but consider the future. E-bikes are expensive and you'll want to ride it for as long as possible. A step thru model might be a good choice as a hedge against future health issues.
Thanks ! Something to consider. Transporting to the trails and getting it on the truck
 
Thanks ! Something to consider. Transporting to the trails and getting it on the truck
Transporting and charging can both be a pain, but by considering them before purchasing, you will see what works for you. You may need a ramp to get them up into your truck, but most people don't. You will only lift one end of the bike at a time, after all, so unless you buy a 90 pound bike it's unlikely to be an issue. Likewise charging isn't a big issue for short rides of a few hours, but can be an issue for all day rides.
 
I want something that pedals close to a normal bike when not using the motor. I would like to stay in the $1000/$1500 area for a first bike .Is that possible ?
Aventon Pace 350 or Pace 500. I would get a step-through frame. Not as sexy but comfortable.

Pros: lightweight, seatpost angle comfortable for non-powered pedaling, cheap and has shops/dealers (most bikes in this price range are online-only, no dealers). Adding lights and rear rack will increase the cost by $50-200 depending mostly on the lights, and will make it ~49 lbs for Pace 350 and 52 lbs for 500. Still lighter than some other at that price.

Cons: reportedly lower quality motor than (more common) Bafang. It costs $300 for a new wheel with motor already laced in. No suspension fork - not a big deal on easy trails.

After Covid-19 lockdown in China and in the middle of summer now many shops have low inventory, many accessories on Aventon site are Sold-Out and new bikes from the factory have 2 months lead time. Though, shops occasionally have bikes in stock. Assembling costs $100-150, some dealers might not charge but don't count on it. Doable on your own if you are handy.
 
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I also have Ride1 up an my list but I guess they have no dealers and have to be ordered online. The other one I like is the Aventon,

Vince, here are the top three Affordable Ebikes as rated by EBR... hope this helps. ;)

Best Affordable Electric Bikes of 2020

Budget conscious? Here’s our top picks for best affordable electric bikes of 2020. You can have confidence in the capabilities of these ebikes. You’ll notice that we don’t go too cheap with these winners, because we’ve found that the very cheapest products do not use reliable or replaceable parts, and they usually lack warranty and customer support. Our chosen ebikes have more dependable motors, batteries, and drivetrains. When comparing affordable ebikes, it’s wise to rely on common sense; “you get what you pay for” and “if something seems too good to be true, it probably is”. Our top three picks are summarized below. For more details, including why we chose each model, check out our full list of the best affordable electric bikes.


Rad Power Bikes RadCity Step-Thru 3 Review
  • Premium
  • MSRP: $1,499
  • MODEL YEAR: 2020
A feature-complete, approachable step-thru, comfort-oriented, a hybrid electric bicycle with regenerative braking. It has a built-in USB charging port below the display, features a modular battery pack that works with all other Rad models of this generation, and comes with integrated lights! The headlight offers a bright 80-lumen center beam and a unique LED circle to keep you seen, while the rear light offers solid, flashing, and bright mode when the brakes are activated. Sturdy adjustable angle stem and long 350mm seat post improves fit for a wide range...Read Review



Electric Bike Company Model Y Review
  • Value
  • MSRP: $1,699
  • MODEL YEAR: 2019
A value-priced entry from EBC for just $1,499, available in 24 custom colors with an adjustable stem, the bike can be made to order with other options for color and accessories. Powerful 48v 10.5ah battery pack cleverly designed to hide at the base of the front… Read Review



December 20, 2019
Ride1Up 500 Series Review
  • Affordable
  • MSRP: $1,099
  • MODEL YEAR: 2019, 20
An affordable urban electric bike with slightly higher top speed of 25mph, trigger throttle operates from zero and overrides all nine levels of assist for maximum control, zippy 500 watt Bafang hub motor, basic 160mm mechanical disc brakes. Upgraded Shimano Acera derailleur with basic 7-speed 14-28 tooth freewheel, upgraded rims with matching black... Read Review
 
I’m in the same range as the OP and considering Aventon, Ride1Up, Sondors, and Espin.

For me the sale price of the Espin Sport at $1199 is compelling but it seems like a lesser known brand/bike than the other 3.

It’s too bad most of these online sites don’t have in-stock bikes that you can get immediately.
 
The reason why I didn't specifically mention RAD and Ride1Up was their substantial weight, making it difficult to pedal non-powered - one of the OP requirements. RAD City is particularly heavy at 65 lbs, and has a direct drive motor that creates a drug when non-powered.

Electric Bike Company Model Y looks beautiful, functional and affordable but, but..... It's battery is proprietary and difficult to remove, not something you can do every day. $1,700 standard model is single-speed, 7-speed upgrade brings the price up to 1,830 plus 180 shipping, total $2,010. It does have a nice frame and I like that they assemble their bikes in the US, so there is less chance of damage in slow boat from China, unlike with other online retailers. Though others mostly don't charge for shipping and will exchange damaged parts for free.

Not that Aventon Pace is a much better bike that others mentioned here, - it will be a compromise decision. It's difficult to choose with a budget that low, plus the requirement to easy pedal un-powered, plus the preference to deal with local shop.
 
Hi,My first post.I have been learning a lot from this site but also confused a lot. I am an old guy that rode daily until a few years ago.I had a stroke and heart problems.I now want to get back to riding.I know I can ride now but worried about how far. Thats why I decided to go electric. I find so many options on brands ,etc.I want something that pedals close to a normal bike when not using the motor. I would like to stay in the $1000/$1500 area for a first bike .Is that possible ? Any suggestions as to brands,hubs,power,etc. thanks in advance.

Sorry to hear about your stroke. My father had a stroke in 2014 and it changed his life for the worse.

E-bikes will help you greatly in gaining strength and re-building your cardio. I have a friend who has a shop in Indiana and I am happy to connect you to him.

You could also look at this bike. It comes with Shimano E-8000 motor and really nice components. For $2000, it is an exceptional bike:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2019-Felt-...250w-Shimano-Steps-58cm-X-Large/193187944518?

Good luck with your search and I am sure E-bikes will make a positive impact in your recovery.
 
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