Helmet Safety Protection Ratings

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Useless and pointless.

In the UK bikes are restricted to 25 kph and rightly so, are they in the US, and here is the point, I would not ride and the law prohibits any motorbike user no matter how small the engine to ride without a proper motorcycle helmet, yet you have cocky idiot cyclists doing 30-40+ with a cycle helmet, good luck
 
CanNik said:
yet you have cocky idiot cyclists doing 30-40+ with a cycle helmet, good luck
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You see, road or gravel cyclists ride 35 or even 50 km/h and they wear cycle helmets, no issue. The UK law is the only one in Europe requiring the riders of S-Pedelecs to wear motorcycle helmets (it is "a helmet" elsewhere). As for myself, my most dangerous crash happened on a lightweight e-bike at 30 km/h on asphalt. The Echelon II got internally smashed, and I got a mild concussion but survived the crash.
 
L1e requires a NTA 8776 or Moped/motorcycle helmet in the EU and UK
 
Base said:
L1e requires a NTA 8776 or Moped/motorcycle helmet in the EU and UK
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The technical requirements of the L1e-B (a two-wheeled moped) are regulated by the European law 168/2013. That law limits the maximum speed of that vehicle type to 45 km/h, the maximum motor power is limited to 4 000 W (it is exactly as written in the law), self-propelling (throttle) is allowed. The law discusses Type-Rating and EU Certificate of Compliance.

However, the same law -- while meticulously defining the vehicle and making electric and ICE mopeds equal -- leaves the EU Member States the decision if and how the moped can be used in a given country. The word "helmet" is never mentioned in the law. If -- for instance -- a specific EU country bans the L1e-B, it is the sovereign decision of the member state.

Examples:
  • The UK riders (based on the law before Brexit) must wear a motorcycle helmet
  • The riders in the Netherlands have to wear an NTA 8776 helmet. NTA 8776 is a purely Dutch law, not a European law (if it were, it would be an EN for that)
  • The L1e-B riders must wear "a helmet" by the Poland's law
  • The riders in Denmark can ride L1e-B on bike paths. It is disallowed in any other EU country.
You see, Base, I was one of the two first owners of L1e-B e-bikes in Poland in 2019. I made "a PhD" on the moped laws to be able to register and insure my 2017 Vado 5.0 45 km/h, and place a number plate for it. I had two encounters with the Police, who at first wanted to punish me for not riding the bike path. The policemen/women were inspecting any detail of my "moped" to find a catch, like, "is your headlight certified?" or "how do you indicate a turn?" to no avail. I can assure you my regular cycling helmet was OK under the Polish law. (It was the Police to tell me there were only two registered electric L1e-Bs in Poland in March 2021: they checked the database).

Three year into the ownership my original Vado's frame broke. I had to officially scrap it and deregister the e-moped.

Now, please tell me what electric L1e-B you owned and share some expertise on your own use.

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My L1e-B on 25 November 2019.
 
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I didnt wear a helmet till I was in my 30s, there were those thin strip helmets and only old men and gadget freaks wore them.
I cycled everywhere, mountain descents, racing, none of us young guys wore helmets.
Everyone I know through clubs or friends of friends have died by being run over by a vehicle.
I appreciate that ignores all the times they might have been saved by a helmet.
Cars are so heavy now, EVs even heavier again, you dont stand a chance, if one goes over you.
The new VW Golf called the ID3 is twice the weight of the original
 
Stefan Mikes said:
The technical requirements of the L1e-B (a two-wheeled moped) are regulated by the European law 168/2013. That law limits the maximum speed of that vehicle type to 45 km/h, the maximum motor power is limited to 4 000 W (it is exactly as written in the law), self-propelling (throttle) is allowed. The law discusses Type-Rating and EU Certificate of Compliance.

However, the same law -- while meticulously defining the vehicle and making electric and ICE mopeds equal -- leaves the EU Member States the decision if and how the moped can be used in a given country. The word "helmet" is never mentioned in the law. If -- for instance -- a specific EU country bans the L1e-B, it is the sovereign decision of the member state.

Examples:
  • The UK riders (based on the law before Brexit) must wear a motorcycle helmet
  • The riders in the Netherlands have to wear an NTA 8776 helmet. NTA 8776 is a purely Dutch law, not a European law (if it were, it would be an EN for that)
  • The L1e-B riders must wear "a helmet" by the Poland's law
  • The riders in Denmark can ride L1e-B on bike paths. It is disallowed in any other EU country.
You see, Base, I was one of the two first owners of L1e-B e-bikes in Poland in 2019. I made "a PhD" on the moped laws to be able to register and insure my 2017 Vado 5.0 45 km/h, and place a number plate for it. I had two encounters with the Police, who at first wanted to punish me for not riding the bike path. The policemen/women were inspecting any detail of my "moped" to find a catch, like, "is your headlight certified?" or "how do you indicate a turn?" to no avail. I can assure you my regular cycling helmet was OK under the Polish law. (It was the Police to tell me there were only two registered electric L1e-Bs in Poland in March 2021: they checked the database).

Three year into the ownership my original Vado's frame broke. I had to officially scrap it and deregister the e-moped.

Now, please tell me what electric L1e-B you owned and share some expertise on your own use.

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My L1e-B on 25 November 2019.
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Can you get done for speeding by a camera with that reg?
 
Chargeride said:
Can you get done for speeding by a camera with that reg?
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Yes, absolutely. The rules are exactly the same as for a Vespa (for instance). Only no moped has a number plate in the front. Some interesting facts about an electric L1e-B are:
  • The speedometer must be operable at all times, and the speed figure must be displayed on any on several data screens. The display is type-rated!
  • In case the display fails for any reason, the assistance will stop. It was notorious for early BLOKS displays that used to hang up frequently (BLOKS was replaced with a new TCD-w(s) system by Specialized free of charge together with many expensive goodies such as a Supernova 99 Pro headlight).
  • The wheel circumference is a read-only system value so no-one can fiddle with that parameter. The latest and last firmware update has set the wheel circumference for 700x51mm tyres. The certified tyre is Specialized Electrak 2.0 Armadillo w/Gripton, 700x51 mm (exactly 2.0" tyres).
Currently, Specialized has introduced a brand new L1e-B by name Turbo Vado S IGH.
 
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Probably the most important thing is that you use a helmet, any helmet! Even if only to prevent road rash like the old leather ones or the foam padded Skid-lids of the early '80s. That ABUS is not highly rated, but it is comfortable and has a central rib for mounting a strap-on light. I am sanitizing it, because the land pirates who took it were very dirty. It has my personal logo sticker inside at the back, the pedal-llama. The rear light is recharging.
 
I’ve been using an pedelec rated Lazer Urbanize helmet for a few years. It has a face shield which helps as I wear glasses and my prescription makes cycling glasses very expensive. While it isn’t very well ventilated for very hot weather it does came with winter parts to limit airflow and ear flaps for, well you know. They replaced it twice. Once after a crash, the second time because the adjustment system broke.
 
Really liking my new Specialized Chamonix 3 at #25 #26 on the VA Tech list. Lighter, better fitting, and much better ventilated than my ABUS Pedelec MIPS 2.0. Lacks the rear light and built-in rain hood of the ABUS, but I foresee it becoming my go-to for daily riding.
 
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I saw the group of people around when my ABUS with the rechargeable rear light went missing from my handlebar. So, I removed the internal pads, used disinfectant, and will only use it with a cap under it. It is nice to have it back, but I don't want to get mange! My Specialized is more comfortable and has MIPS.
 
Stefan Mikes said:
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The rain-hood was the best thing in that helmet.

However, the shiny paint of ABUS didn't hold; it was going off in big flakes. Now, I don't think I kept that helmet after several years of use.
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Why not just paint it. Automotive engine paint is really good. It can take oils and other severe exposures. You would need to do a little prep. Mine was $165 so it would be worth a little extra time. And you could get a different color.
 
PedalUma said:
Why not just paint it. Automotive engine paint is really good. It can take oils and other severe exposures. You would need to do a little prep. Mine was $165 so it would be worth a little extra time. And you could get a different color.
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A helmet should be replaced once in a several years anyway.
 
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