Strip new chain grease before lubing with Rock N Roll Gold?

Gionnirocket said:
Why would that be?
I use Boeshield T9 and it's a wax in a solvent designed to flush out old lube/grime and dry with a new layer internally. Using it for a few years now that description seems to be accurate. Like I said earlier.. My experience with not cleaning the chain first leaves a lot of old lube to flush out that remains messy. That factory lube is thick and tacky and hard to wipe down.
I was getting 3000mi on a X8 chain.. and I have +7000mi on an e8 chain now. (1000w mid drive)
ymmv
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I am not familiar with that lube, but with wax you have you clean the factory lube of first.
 
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If you want things to be as neat and clean as possible then removing the factory lube is a big help.
If that's not an issue.. then leaving it does no harm but I also don't think it helps much either... imo.
 
An old peanut butter jar with Dawn water with a volatile solvent stripper will remove the factory gunk when shaken and then rinsed several times. But then it immediately needs corrosion protection. A clean chain that is rusty is no fun.
 
I don't eat much peanut butter.

I only buy it for the jar. 😁

The jars leak a little when you shake the Hell outta the bottle, so I only shake it hard when it's full of Dawn and hot water.

Acetone, lacquer thinner, and alcohol evaporate without leaving a residue or smell.

Camp fuel (naphtha), mineral spirits, gasoline and varsol leave an oily residue and a stink behind.
 
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RunForTheHills said:
I am not familiar with that lube,
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It's basically just wax dissolved in a solvent that evaporates and leaves the wax behind.

I used melted parrafin wax (plus additives) that seep into the chain, and solidifies when it cools.

No solvent or delivery agent.

My new chain was 98% clean before I hot waxed it, and now I'll "top it up" with the T-9 periodically.

T-9 is wax dissolved in a solvent, but the solvent doesn't have any oil to wash away.
I'll just be refilling the gaps with new wax.

No mess after it's dry.

That will keep my front derailleur (my hand) clean when I shift between low & hi gear. (44t and 52t chainring)
 
I made my own liquid wax using a bit of parrafin wax dissolved in a solvent.
(I think I used Naphtha?)

I shook it up in a dropper bottle and managed to make mush.😁

I didn't go too far with that project.

I could have "watered it down" more with solvents, but I had already made a big enough mess. 😁
 
Gionnirocket said:
Probably cost twice as much as a bottle of Boeshield as well 🙃
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In the end with all the parrafin wax and all the other ingredients (Molybdenum Disulfide, Teflon powder) I spent well over $100.

I would have been better off with just a REALLY Good cleaning of my chain (stripped, as @stompandgo called it) and some sort of liquid wax.


But I've got all the stuff to boil my chains now, so I'm going keep doing it that way, at least at first with a new chain, then maybe once a year during the winter?
 
I want to use a good wax bashed lube but they all need at least 12 hours but morel like 24 hours to dry. that won't work on my commuters as I tend to do the chain at work. but I wonder if more time would be needed in winter? I can see using it on our tandem now we dont ride every day.
 
The Boeshield T9 (wax based) states a minimum of 2 hours but overnight for best results. I've done both and less does wipe off if left overnight.
That said... The 2 hour method still has good results.
ymmv
 
Hey Jeremy, ignore all the trash talkers, I use Rock n Roll Gold too. I really like it. I’ve used gasoline to deep clean my chain, blow it dry with an air nozzle, then put on the RnRG. It seems to have a cleaner/carrier mixed with the lubricant. My chains stay clean also, except the one on the Levo.
 
Extreme1 said:
Hey Jeremy, ignore all the trash talkers, I use Rock n Roll Gold too. I really like it. I’ve used gasoline to deep clean my chain, blow it dry with an air nozzle, then put on the RnRG. It seems to have a cleaner/carrier mixed with the lubricant. My chains stay clean also, except the one on the Levo.
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it works well but when it rains a lot it does not last. but I don't have to clean my chain either. I wanted to see how the holy cow version worked but it needs too much tiem to dry. I buy it he big bottles.

 
The woman who is riding across the country offroad with her tent and gear took her bike to a shop a few days ago. They replaced the chain. She hates it. I boiled a new KMC e10 all of last night and am sending it ahead to her sister in Chicago today. The famous shop's co-owner said it was the cleanest chain they have ever replaced.

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