Specialized Turbo Vado SL: An Incredible E-Bike (User Club)

Part of it is that everything is connected by the frame so a squeak from drive train could be saddle, post, BB, pedals, mech, cassette, hubs and of course on e bikes the motor. Might even be loose headset or handlebars as the pedalling motion causes 'ripples' through the frame, everything connected. It is absolutely frustrating when there is a knocking noise.
Agree, transmission through the frame has to be part of the answer. Then you hear the sound at its strongest or nearest re-radiator, which from the saddle could well be louder than the source.

Reflections off frame members or components could also add to the subterfuge.
 
Hello Everyone,

I recently picked up one of these awesome Vado SL's at clearance pricing from Cycle Sport...what a bike! I'm really impressed with how fast it is. I ride a Levo SL as my MTB, so this Vado was a logical complement as I can use my existing range extender, I'm used to the interface and electronics platform, etc. What I'm wondering is, what tire options are people now running? It seems like everything is going wider over the past couple years and the Specialized Pathfinder Pro 2Bliss 700x42 everyone loved seems to be sold out everywhere. Any suggestions on alternatives?
  1. I want to go tubeless.
  2. I would like to go as wide as possible without rubbing (I'm not running fenders)
  3. I'll be riding the paved Ecusta Trail and other paved bike paths with my family, and also venturing out on my own on Pisgah and Dupont fire roads, and other gravel roads in the area.
  4. I want something that is comfortable and reliable.
  5. I'm not really concerned about speed, or riding gnarly terrain. I have my Levo SL for that type of riding.
Any input is much appreciated. Thanks!

ps I did search this thread but didn't find any super recent tire suggestions over the past year or so.
 
Hello Everyone,

I recently picked up one of these awesome Vado SL's at clearance pricing from Cycle Sport...what a bike! I'm really impressed with how fast it is.
Congrats and welcome aboard! Still in love with my SL 1 a year and almost 3,000 mi later.

What I'm wondering is, what tire options are people now running? It seems like everything is going wider over the past couple years and the Specialized Pathfinder Pro 2Bliss 700x42 everyone loved seems to be sold out everywhere. Any suggestions on alternatives?
  1. I want to go tubeless.
  2. I would like to go as wide as possible without rubbing (I'm not running fenders)
  3. I'll be riding the paved Ecusta Trail and other paved bike paths with my family, and also venturing out on my own on Pisgah and Dupont fire roads, and other gravel roads in the area.
  4. I want something that is comfortable and reliable.
  5. I'm not really concerned about speed, or riding gnarly terrain. I have my Levo SL for that type of riding.
My SL has been running 38 mm tubeless Pathfinder Pros for almost 3,000 mi of road, hard pack, gravel, low-tide beach sand, and some easy single-track now and then. A lot of the off-road surfaces have been far from luxury.

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Point is, the 38s have been more than adequate on all of that. So if you can't find 42s, the 38s are a good fallback.
 
When I got my Vado SL first, in the first year or so I tried a few different tyres, from original pathfinder sport to wtb nanos, panaracer gravel kings and then because I picked up a cheap pair & decided to try them; wtb byways 44s. They suit my riding and they've been now on the bike for 3 + years. There are a number of similar style tyres from different brands with a smooth central stripe with knobs on the edges giving a good all round tyre for different conditions. I also find the wtb tyres in general very comfortable, good suspension. Obviously it also depends on the road surfaces you tend to ride, the mix of small lanes, bridleways and forestry roads near me works well with the 'byways' tyre.
 
I might be in the market for new tyres in the new year as for sure the bike shop will suggest my I need to replace my Pathfinder Pro 2Bliss 700x42
due to wear. Now my riding has definitely changed in the last year and I am pretty much solely on the road these days I am wondering if I should look for something more road oriented but still forgiving.
 
The tyre fashion changes every few years. Only recently, the 38 and 42 mm tyres were the standard for wheels such as used on Vado SL 1. Now, the trend is 40 or 45 mm. The issue here is the measured tyre width does not necessarily match the nominal size of the tyre depending on the manufacturer and model. Ras says 44 mm WTB Byways match his Vado. While the 42 mm Specialized Tracer Pro (discontinued) barely matched my "naked" Vado SL, and 42 mm Specialized Rhombus Pro (discontinued) are the ideal match but still do not allow installing an SKS Germany rear Speedrocker mudguard!

Given the trends, I would say the current 40-622 tyres are the proper size. That's why I said: either a new Specialized Pathfinder TLR 40-622 (which is advertised as a "fast rolling tyre" and I trust it is fast rolling) or the 40-622 Schwalbe I mentioned before, and many mates of mine swear by it.

@2wheelsgood: I found Pathfinders being excellent road tyres in the given size. I think the new TLR could be the right choice.
 
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Thanks for all the thoughtful tire input everyone! :) I work in the automotive aftermarket, so I'm very familiar with all the sizing inconsistencies on tires...same story there. That's one of the reasons I wanted to get specific recommendations here about compounds and widths...there don't seem to be any standards! Thanks again.
I'd like to hear how your tire saga progresses. Guessing I have at least another year of wear on my SL's 38 mm Pathfinders, but someday I'll have to replace them.

Not gonna replace wheels just to fit a tire, and not quite ready to ditch my 5.0 EQ fenders. So I think that limits my biggest tire to the 700 x 38 mm on the bike now.

On a tangent
Isn't it odd how humans across the planet seem to be drawn to big tires? Not just a US thing. Look at the evidence:

o Toy vehicles (cars, trucks, motorcycles) always have huge tires these days.
o Vehicles in prominent roles in cartoons, ads, TV shows, and movies often sport big tires — apparently for the same reason that their producers gravitate to D cups.
o Aftermarket mods often involve bigger tires (my old roaster included) — often at great cost.
o All hot new vehicles for sale now come with big tires — often with options for even bigger.
o Fatties are by far the most popular ebikes out and about in coastal SoCal — despite all the performance disadvantages for most riders.
o Fatties also dominate the ebike reviews and ads I see online.
o Now that performance data brings legitimacy to bigger tires on road bikes, every GCN road or gravel bike review states maximum tire width, with wider clearly being a selling point now.

And if that's not compelling enough, I recently saw Simon of GCN complaining that a bike he'd been assigned had only 47 mm tires. If a guy that performance-driven has already gone over to the wide side, you know it's like crack.
 
Pathfinder Pro 2 Bliss are still available in 38-622.
Wanted you to go with the new Pathfinder Fast Gravel Tire TLR, you would have to go down to 35-622... (it is the size of Schwalbe studded winter tyres I must use when it is ice outside).

I was trying to help @JRitt as he definitely wants to ride his Vado SL in the "naked" version.
I recently saw Simon of GCN complaining that a bike he'd been assigned had only 47 mm tires.
Ya but he also rode the Road of Death in Bolivia recently :)
 
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About to spring for a range extender for my SL 1. Will my old Specialized Zee cage (v.1, not carbon) work with it? If so, any advantage to the Zee cage they sell for the RE?

Thanks!
 
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About to spring for a range extender.for my SL 1. Will my old Specialized Zee cage (v.1, not carbon) work with it? If so, any advantage to the cage they sell for the RE?

Thanks!
If you buy a proper set of RE, it includes the battery, the cage and a rubber band. No need to buy a separate cage. However, if you already own a bare RE, you should use the Specialized Zee II LEFT cage. I doubt it is a carbon one. (I doubt a carbon part would cost just $10).
A point to take some care: the cage (when properly installed on the seat tube, that is, vertically) should open to the right (the LEFT cage does it). It ensures smooth routing the RE Cable (Road) from the charging socket (on the left) all way to the battery socket (on the right).
 
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