You NEVER want to see this on a group ride!

Comfortably Numb said:
A bunch of those bikes would have to be licensed and insured here. They are scooters.
Pseudo-ebikes with pedals that are for all intent, decoration, are occasionally nabbed here for being just that.
They rarely enforce helmet laws here so I'm not surprised they rarely bother with scooters posing as e-bikes.
They're all over the place. CN
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Wow. Where do you live?
 
"It's America"....land of the free. That said, ebikes are still not universally appreciated and the wary, cynical, and NIMBY folks are assessing the feasability of unregulated allowance of ebikes. Be an ambassador. What I saw in the video was a swarm of riders, some of whom were pedaling (actually or pretend) while a fair # seemed to be throttle only. Legal yes, good image.....no! Additionally the group was swarming side to side down the street.....nothing irritates vehicle drivers more than bikers riding abreast across a road. However, the thing that most jumped out at me was the pack seeming to BLAZE thru not just one but TWO stop signs. I'm under the impression that by default ALL vehicles must come to a full stop at a stop sign. Several states (6?), including the one I reside in (WA) have recently modified that position to allow bicyclists to "yield" rather than come to a full, compliant stop. Yield is somewhat objective but conjures up a cautious rollup......not what I saw in the video. The state specifically states ".......requires people on bicycles to slow down to a reasonable speed that would allow them to stop if necessary". Be ambassadors!!!
 
Hard to say from the narrow(?) feild of view of the camera vs. one's actual field of vision. At the first stop sign there was a car on the other side of the road heading the other direction and one car stopped and not turning in their direction. I probably would have slowed down. I didn't see any traffic at the second stop sign and it looked like there might have been someone monitoring traffic and waving them thru, not sure. Again, might judge it differently based on actual field of view. But I agree, not how I would promote a group ride.
 
Russ Smith said:
"It's America"....land of the free. That said, ebikes are still not universally appreciated and the wary, cynical, and NIMBY folks are assessing the feasability of unregulated allowance of ebikes. Be an ambassador. What I saw in the video was a swarm of riders, some of whom were pedaling (actually or pretend) while a fair # seemed to be throttle only. Legal yes, good image.....no! Additionally the group was swarming side to side down the street.....nothing irritates vehicle drivers more than bikers riding abreast across a road. However, the thing that most jumped out at me was the pack seeming to BLAZE thru not just one but TWO stop signs. I'm under the impression that by default ALL vehicles must come to a full stop at a stop sign. Several states (6?), including the one I reside in (WA) have recently modified that position to allow bicyclists to "yield" rather than come to a full, compliant stop. Yield is somewhat objective but conjures up a cautious rollup......not what I saw in the video. The state specifically states ".......requires people on bicycles to slow down to a reasonable speed that would allow them to stop if necessary". Be ambassadors!!!
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Unfortunately I’m going to have to disagree with you. I don’t think anyone was being disrespectful and we were moving over to the side of the road for traffic. Also, in our state you DO NOT have to come to a complete stop at a stop sign.
 
TomD said:
Hard to say from the narrow(?) feild of view of the camera vs. one's actual field of vision. At the first stop sign there was a car on the other side of the road heading the other direction and one car stopped and not turning in their direction. I probably would have slowed down. I didn't see any traffic at the second stop sign and it looked like there might have been someone monitoring traffic and waving them thru, not sure. Again, might judge it differently based on actual field of view. But I agree, not how I would promote a group ride.
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Yes, someone was ahead of everyone monitoring traffic and waiving them through. I respect your opinion but I don’t think anyone was being careless or disrespectful.
 
Not much difference in what I see here compared to the saturday or sunday morning spandex clad group analog riders who will take over the entire lane in the local area I live in. Both are irritating if you are a motorist wanting to get by and you have a double yellow, no-passing lane. I can guarantee you that it's these type of throttle controlled, high speed electric mopeds that will eventually put the screws to every 250 watt, PAS ebiker out there once legislators get complaints from trail walkers, dog walkers or mom's simply wanting to get into their parked car, getting buzzed by these folks.

The rider there went down cause they don't know about airing down in loose dirt conditions.....
 
easyheimer said:
Class 3 eBike. Or you could say it was a moped since they don’t need to be registered in CT under a certain hp.
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Don't Class 3 ebikes have to have pedals, that have to be functional? Several of those in the video didn't even appear to have pedals at all. They ARE mopeds, which are NOT ebikes.
 
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