What are you thoughts on 2018 Haibike Models?
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Over50
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I was moreso referring to the number system rather than the X/S Duro nomenclature. I understood the number system to refer to the quality of the components (similar to Trek's system). So to go from the 4.0 Trekking to the 9.5 or 9.0 I expected a big jump in components. But they look largely the same which leads me to believe they have reset the number system in addition to changing the XDuro, SDuro nomenclature. I must say that on my 4.0 Trekking, the gear shifting is really smooth and the brakes are phenomenal. For what that bike is designed to be, it seems to be spec'd rather well as-is.
Sweetwater
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I agree with your observations. I spec bikes with the same frame but different components all the time. Nomenclature should reflect this as a package and no more. If there are upgrades or downgrades to a drive train or components, that's what matters to me, not what you name the bike. By making their nomenclature confusing, Haibike is attempting to capitalize on those who don't know or follow component lines and that is not a marketing approach I support. But I will look closely at end of the year discounts because the 2017 lineup is a good one, just over priced.
Chris Nolte
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Definitely some exciting changes for Haibike coming next year! I suspect the name change might be in light of Yamaha introducing their own bikes. I can't imagine they're too happy about that.
Many of the bikes will be arriving pretty soon actually. Aside from the Bosch powertube bikes which will be available next summer if all goes well.
Many of the bikes will be arriving pretty soon actually. Aside from the Bosch powertube bikes which will be available next summer if all goes well.
rich c
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You ever rode one? I have two, they are definitely not underpowered! I have 1300 miles on one, 1600 miles on the other, both are 2016s.. The full suspension bike will actually pull the air fork back when riding in the turbo mode. Any more power and the back tire will be spinning. I don't buy the new model year, so I don't pay list. But these things are an absolute joy to ride!
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You have to look at many factors in choosing a bike to fit your needs. You can't look at just wattage, torque, or several other 'stand alone' figures and develop an accurate assessment. Here's a recent thread that discusses this:
https://electricbikereview.com/forums/threads/torque-rating-on-e-bikes-marketing-gimmick.2467/
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I haven’t actually! I don’t really have anywhere near me to test ride one, I’m new and just learning about this stuff. Im a pretty heavy guy (230lbs) and i just want to do about 15-20miles one way on torque sense mode for my commute. I thought with my weight I would need a higher wattage but you’re right i should test drive one. It’s just concerning when I see other bikes with 750-1000 w motors with 48v batteries and it all seems like quite a jump from just 350w 32V!
You also need to learn about any laws regarding speed and wattage restrictions in your local area if you intend to utilize bike paths. For example, here in Georgia, bike paths are restricted to 20 mph assist and 1000 watt motors, which is higher wattage than the federal limit of 750 watts. It’s really a hodgepodge out here; we really need a national set of rules.
not too worried about the laws and such. I am just going to be both reasonable and safe, that is enough to not get me in trouble where I live. I don't plan on going very fast either, its more about power getting my fat a** up a hill lol (with torque assist of course).
rich c
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I'm bigger than you, right around 250 pounds, 65 years old. There are a lot of people that buy big motor bikes with hand or thumb throttles, that use the bikes like a scooter or slow motorcycle. I prefer to ride a bicycle. High end, smooth components, torque sensors, big hydraulic brakes, and just a plain sweet ride in my opinion. I had never ridden a mountain bike trail until last year. The Haibike Full Seven lets me climb and ride through obstacles that I would not attempt on a traditional bicycle. In fact, never even thought about riding trails until I bought the bike.
bob armani
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Yeah, I see what you are referring to in 2.37. No IBC on the frame. So many models to choose from; just another way to confuse the consumer with almost too many models. I personally like the IBC on any model of an ebike to stay with the stealthy looks. Great move for Haibike, but long overdue IMHO! I assume most/all of the Yamaha models in the video have the new PBX motor?? Great video though for many new models to look forward to giving test rides and possible purchase! FUN!
bob armani
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Yes the Trek Super Commuter8 is my ebike of choice also. They have tuned the Bosch motor quite well to match with the great build quality of Trek bicycles! Test rode at the Expo and it was superior to other models in the price range ($5000.00 Usd) Hope the pricing comes down a bit though.
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