We need to stop blaming victims in bike theft!

Captain Slow said:
Geez, I just saw the other thread about the 1,000 watt bike and fear mongering. All that and your bike got stolen. Sorry to hear.

Everyone got worked up over how much power you had and that’s all moot now that you don’t have your bike.

I had a friend whose bike was stolen and he was one of the lucky few who the police actually recovered it, so hopefully you’ll be so lucky as well.
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Yeah what's even worse is they were right 1000w (for me) was over kill and for my next bike I am going to be going to a 500w mid-drive. Please note i was coming form a single speed 500w hub motor which now I know is so different then a mid drive. The power ban on a hub is so different than 11 gears on a mid drive!
 
kevinmccune said:
I agree 100% screw the bastards that go" now,now Man up". Thats like getting a traffic violation for someone else's screwup (BTDT). You have my sympathy nothing worse than a stinking" Theif. Seems at least 90% of the people I know seem to be capable of thievery of one type or the other.This is a sick society where others laugh at your misfortune.( Like Gillette said "screw em"- thats not the whole quote)
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MrCaspan said:
Yeah what's even worse is they were right 1000w (for me) was over kill and for my next bike I am going to be going to a 500w mid-drive. Please note i was coming form a single speed 500w hub motor which now I know is so different then a mid drive. The power ban on a hub is so different than 11 gears on a mid drive!
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Something to consider is maybe that 500w mid drive is not the right answer... but for a different reason than power output. I'm not speaking of a manufactured ebike here, where I assume they've thought this through and dealt with the issue. But if you have a choice of installing, lets say, a BBSHD, or a BBS02 (or a Tongsheng TSDZ2 for that matter) then there the construction of the motor itself when subjected to heavy load should be considered.

You can kill a BBS02 if you work it hard enough. The controller can fry, most typically. This is not as much of a problem as it once was, but its still something to keep in mind. I've also heard of some Tongsheng users having trouble with a little blue gear inside that can die an early death if the motor is worked too hard. On the other hand, a BBSHD was built as the heavy-duty successor to the BBS02 and its bits are more robust to the point that you can't break it unless you hotrod the thing with something like a 50a aftermarket controller and say a 72v battery. So for normal folks using it within factory limits... its essentially indestructible.

I tone down my BBSHDs' output on pedal assist as I don't need that much power, either. But I am very happy to have motors that are overbuilt that I can rely on.
 
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m@Robertson said:
Something to consider is maybe that 500w mid drive is not the right answer... but for a different reason than power output. I'm not speaking of a manufactured ebike here, where I assume they've thought this through and dealt with the issue. But if you have a choice of installing, lets say, a BBSHD, or a BBS02 (or a Tongsheng TSDZ2 for that matter) then there the construction of the motor itself when subjected to heavy load should be considered.

You can kill a BBS02 if you work it hard enough. The controller can fry, most typically. This is not as much of a problem as it once was, but its still something to keep in mind. I've also heard of some Tongsheng users having trouble with a little blue gear inside that can die an early death if the motor is worked too hard. On the other hand, a BBSHD was built as the heavy-duty successor to the BBS02 and its bits are more robust to the point that you can't break it unless you hotrod the thing with something like a 50a aftermarket controller and say a 72v battery. So for normal folks using it within factory limits... its essentially indestructible.

I tone down my BBSHDs' output on pedal assist as I don't need that much power, either. But I am very happy to have motors that are overbuilt that I can rely on.
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Yeah from what I understand form the BBSHD its all metal gearing inside so that is why it is so noisy compared to the 500w model that has nylon in it. I will be trying it to see but I am a bit torn for sure. I just wish you could put the BBSHD into some kind of PA level that the motor goes to 1/2 power so the noise goes down. I had the CAN BUS version so there is not much tinkering you can do with it. I hope the 500w will do what I want

Here is the bike I am thinking of. Would love your opinion on it!
www.biktrix.ca

Monte Capro Lite

Weighing just over 40lbs, the Monte Capro Lite eBike brings the high quality components and carbon fiber frame of its higher-priced counterpart, the Monte Capro Ultra, but at a lower starting price. Featuring the responsive Bafang M600 mid-drive motor, 48V 17.5Ah battery, and 280lbs weight...
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Tom@WashDC said:
Well... if he's in a War Zone?
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The Ukrainians placed a laptop that is the size of a Russian vest's armor plate. Sure enough they found the guy who took it, dead with a hole in the laptop at his heart. The armored plate was found where the laptop was.
 
MrCaspan said:
Yeah from what I understand form the BBSHD its all metal gearing inside so that is why it is so noisy compared to the 500w model that has nylon in it. I will be trying it to see but I am a bit torn for sure. I just wish you could put the BBSHD into some kind of PA level that the motor goes to 1/2 power so the noise goes down. I had the CAN BUS version so there is not much tinkering you can do with it. I hope the 500w will do what I want

Here is the bike I am thinking of. Would love your opinion on it!
www.biktrix.ca

Monte Capro Lite

Weighing just over 40lbs, the Monte Capro Lite eBike brings the high quality components and carbon fiber frame of its higher-priced counterpart, the Monte Capro Ultra, but at a lower starting price. Featuring the responsive Bafang M600 mid-drive motor, 48V 17.5Ah battery, and 280lbs weight...
www.biktrix.ca www.biktrix.ca
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It weighs closer to 60lbs with battery.
 
MrCaspan said:
Yeah from what I understand form the BBSHD its all metal gearing inside so that is why it is so noisy compared to the 500w model that has nylon in it. I will be trying it to see but I am a bit torn for sure. I just wish you could put the BBSHD into some kind of PA level that the motor goes to 1/2 power so the noise goes down. I had the CAN BUS version so there is not much tinkering you can do with it. I hope the 500w will do what I want

Here is the bike I am thinking of. Would love your opinion on it!
www.biktrix.ca

Monte Capro Lite

Weighing just over 40lbs, the Monte Capro Lite eBike brings the high quality components and carbon fiber frame of its higher-priced counterpart, the Monte Capro Ultra, but at a lower starting price. Featuring the responsive Bafang M600 mid-drive motor, 48V 17.5Ah battery, and 280lbs weight...
www.biktrix.ca www.biktrix.ca
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I have a BBSHD (purchased Jan 2021)running at 30amps, 1500+W. You cannot hear the motor over the normal tire or ambient noise on the trail. My buddy has a BBS02, same thing, essentially zero noise. You can adjust the BBSHD controller so that the power level goes to 1/2 power, or whatever level you want that does not exceed the controller max output.
 
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PedalUma said:
The Ukrainians placed a laptop that is the size of a Russian vest's armor plate. Sure enough they found the guy who took it, dead with a hole in the laptop at his heart. The armored plate was found where the laptop was.
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I dont get it
 
MrCaspan said:
So I just had my beautiful e-bike stolen. It was my vehicle to get to work, it was my play toy to ride at the HydroCut here in Kitchener, it was my way to let off steam. I was so sad when I saw the guy grab it then spin it around and bike away while I chased them down the street But for some reason people want to ask "was it locked up?" WTF does it matter if it was locked up? I just lost my bike. Why is it so easy to just blame the victim. That's like asking a sexual assault victim "were you dressed provocatively" you should know better... It makes me so mad that we have become a society of people that just love to post blame in situations instead of supporting each other. I posted the bike on Reddit as soon as it happened hoping to get more eyes on it as my bike is pretty unique. It is Reddit so take it for what it is. but the responses I get were 90% people trying to help and supportive people and the other 10 were like "I'd steal it too", "I bet you didn't lock it up" I know better then to expect more from that place but still. Not everyone is like this I know but if you are that person, seriously screw you!! Stop victim blaming. No one asked for your judgement. Hell a guy on Reddit bike store guy decided to tell me that I got taken for paying what I did for my bike and they robbed me and never trust this company as they are just Alibaba resellers (Which they are not). Like who does this?

When stuff like this happens let's support each other and be mad at the problem not the victims.

Sorry rant over and I still miss my bike...
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Sorry to hear that happened to you. These bikes are too expensive to lose like that. In the west, it's a huge problem. Right up there with car theft. Part of the problem is car and bike thieves don't spend time in jail anymore. They get a ticket. The guys that stole my car never did one day in jail but it cost me a few grand for towing and damages. I learned, and added multiple locks and alarm. My bike has an alarm. Got it on Amazon. Has a small remote. When set, if someone touches the bike, they get a few loud burst warnings.If touched again the alarm goes off full blast. Real loud until I use the remote to turn it off. Works great when stopping to use the head. Good luck on finding you're bike.
 
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