Torn between two bikes

Hello friends!

So I've been researching the past month or two and have really gotten active in my peruse of an E-bike, I'm 5'5" and around 230lb. I ultimately would love a bike that I can cruise along the many bike paths in our area, ride down to the ponds with the kids, or maybe even attempt to commute to work in the morning. With that, I also want to be able to take this rig off road, we do a lot of camping and lots of trail exploring, and I'd love to have a bike that can get me through the trail of rocks and roots (all pretty light stuff though, I wouldn't say full on mountain biking) The reason why I'm leaning towards an E-bike is because we live in an extremely hilly area. We have some crazy hills in our neighborhood alone that not many municipal sanding trucks can make up the hill. I'm slightly overshare and overweight, so the thought of trying to get on those hills make me not even want to go out on a bike. With an e-bike... I feel limitless. I mostly want to ride the bike without the motor running - just as a regular bike - I like getting my heart rate up and I want more ways to exercise besides hiking and walking, but I'd love that extra assistance getting up those dreaded hills. We have two foster kids, so it's hard for me to justify spending this much money on myself, but after riding around for an hour in 15 degree weather I was sold lol.

So here's my dilemma, I put a down payment on a Lift+, awesome bike. Comfortable, nice motor response, just enough help to get up those hills when I wanted to, was able to turn it off and peddle like a normal bike and that didn't suck due to the weight. Took it off pavement for a bit and .... ouch. No way would I be able to deal with dirt trails comfortably on this guy. We went back to the drawing board and I contacted Trek to see what they would say. Somehow I got wind of a Neko+, the Woman's version of the old Dual sport. Bingo! Great! Lets find this guy. Well, it turns out there is only one on the East Coast, and it's about 5 hours away. The rep from Trek actually called the shop and asked if he would match the price of the Neko+ to the sale price I saw online (before my local shop sold out) and they agreed $1999. Awesome! Went back into my local shop to tell him the news and take back my deposit to snag that Neko+ 5 hours away, and our bike guy said, "I found something that may work for your needs." It's a Raleigh Cadent IE. Okay - don't know much about Raleigh because I've been obsessing over Trek the past couple weeks because of the Lift+. Now, looking at the two bikes side by side (Cadent and the Neko+) they look like the same exact bike. Front suspension, similar step through frame, similar geometry, but the Raleigh has wider, although slicker, tires. Neko+ seems to have thinner yet more of a knobby treaded tire. The Raleigh is $200~ cheaper at $1700, closer to us, and comes with fenders, a rack and built in lights. but seems heavier.

Our local bike guy had me put a 100% deposit down on the Raleigh to order it so I can try it. He also put the Lift+ on hold too in case I decide to go back to that guy. I've attached some pictures of the bikes side by side, they look so similar. The only thing that I say I'm not a fan of with the Raleigh motors is how fast they "zip" when peddling. With the Lift+ Shimano motor it was a nice gradual increase that met with my own power. With the Raleigh it seemed like as soon as I peddled I was being pushed back in my seat... I did see that you can adjust the power wattage etc but I'm not sure if that is what I need to decrease..

What would you do? Which is a better bike? In your opinion which is a better brand? Do I take the 10 hour drive round trip to go grab the Neko+ for a couple more hundred bucks, or do I stick with my local shop and go with the Raleigh? I want this bike to last me a good while (hopefully 6+ years) of summer spring and fall riding with the kids. It's such a big investment for something that's just for me I want to make sure I'm making the right choice and will be able to handle what ever trails come our way. What are your opinions?

Hello,
Both the Trek and Raleigh are fine brands. I'd go with a Trek assuming one of their models meets your needs. Their after sale support is excellent. I
own two Treks, an XM 700+ and a Powerfly 7 MTB, absolutely love 'em...The PF 7 with it's CX motor will climb a brick wall : ) With the 'right' tires
the PF could be the perfect all around bike. I have 4200 combined miles zero problems.

I get it about spending $$ on yourself . I felt the same way, but 10 minutes on a test ride and I bought my bike on the spot ! Best money I've
ever spent. I'd do it again..and I did. Every ride is still Christmas morning and I've been riding for a year and a half...Good luck, enjoy.
 
Fair enough about the price. I do suggest you avoid bikes with cheap sensors. I started out with a Motorino ebike with a 6 magnet sensor ring. I feel these types are dangerous and I have personally crashed on that bike more than once due the bike lurching on me in tight quarters. Good luck and choose wisely the first time or you will have to buy it twice like I did. If I add the cost of both bike purchases together , it would have been much cheaper to buy a high quality bike in the first place.


How would one determine if the sensor is cheap or not? That's my fear is the lurching in small area's, but I'm hoping that if I tone down the power output in the settings I should be able to make it a little less full power all at once lol
 
How would one determine if the sensor is cheap or not? That's my fear is the lurching in small area's, but I'm hoping that if I tone down the power output in the settings I should be able to make it a little less full power all at once lol
Prefer a torque sensor over a cadence sensor. Avoid all cadence sensors. Trek bikes do not have cadence sensors. All bikes that use Bosch systems do not have cadence sensors.
 
How would one determine if the sensor is cheap or not? That's my fear is the lurching in small area's, but I'm hoping that if I tone down the power output in the settings I should be able to make it a little less full power all at once lol

If you are able to relax your budget a little bit, get this one. Has beefy tires, brakes, wonderful suspension and goes 28mph.
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You could get racks added on to the bike.
 
That is a very good price for those components and the Bosch speed.


Wow, that is a really good price! Our local shop still has it at $3,200 though, and it's a special order item too (They already special ordered the Cadent for me to try) Would that be rude of me to ask?
 
Go to the Raleigh site and you will see that the bike that Ravi mentioned is on sale now. Tell the LBS to get that you that bike at that price in your size . If he will not ,then January is a good time to shop for bikes so keep looking. The Lore has a German motor and a 500 watt battery (listed on sale for $2500) and the the Cadent has a Chinese motor and a 400 watt battery ($1800) .
 
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Wow, that is a really good price! Our local shop still has it at $3,200 though, and it's a special order item too (They already special ordered the Cadent for me to try) Would that be rude of me to ask?

Any authorized Raleigh dealer can get you that speed bike for $2499. He can't charge you more because Raleigh will honor any sale price.
Invest $500 more and get this bike. It's in a different league compared to the Cadent and you'll be happy in the long run and you'll get support from your Local dealer.
If you think Cadent is a good enough bike, that's reasonable too.
 
Any authorized Raleigh dealer can get you that speed bike for $2499. He can't charge you more because Raleigh will honor any sale price.
Invest $500 more and get this bike. It's in a different league compared to the Cadent and you'll be happy in the long run and you'll get support from your Local dealer.
If you think Cadent is a good enough bike, that's reasonable too.

When the Cadent comes in I'll head into the shop, give it a test ride for sure just incase and then depending on how it goes.... then ask the local shop if they can order the Lore. I feel guilty because he clearly ordered the Cadent for me, so I kind of feel like he'll be upset to order yet ANOTHER bike for me to try, but it seems like the Lore will do the trick. When I say ordered I had to put a full deposit down since it was a special order item (so is the Lore). You think they'll be pissed? I may bring in cookies just to soften the blow... lol

But the lore does seem like the best bet, front suspension, torque sensor, better motor, lighter weight, fatter and more aggressive tires...
 
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When I say ordered I had to put a full deposit down since it was a special order item (so is the Lore). You think he'll totally hate me? I may bring in cookies just to soften the blow... lol
If you give this kind of consideration to others, you are the kind of customer every retailer wants. Buy the bike you really want. The shop will ultimately understand. Good luck!
 
For sure! I just gotta get the balls to tell the local bike shop to special order me another bike lol....while I bake cookies hahahaha
 
Surely these should be the cookies:)

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I'll take a dozen;)
 
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That makes sense. I think I’m going to do the lore! For $500 more I think I’m getting a better deal down the line for what I need

Congrats on your new steed.

Thats such a good deal, if they are still available come tax refund time, I might indulge in one myself.
 
Crap!! They just took the lore out of their catalog online, say's no longer available... s*it! Back to square one I guess... :(
 
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Crap!! They just took the lore out of their catalog online and he said they can’t order it for me. s*it! Back to square one I guess... :(

Not really!
You can order it straight out of Raleigh website and they will ship it to your nearest dealer and have him build it. Shipping and building is included in the cost. You don't have to pay your dealer, Raleigh will compensate the dealership for any work.
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If they are smart, they will work with you keeping your long term happiness in mind. If he is very anal about ordering bikes, he will keep losing customers until he is out of business. There is a reason why small local stores are going out of business. Their inability to embrace change and keep with all the online marketing processes.

What's more important to you? having a great quality bike or pleasing your dealer (for whom you are just one more customer).
As mentioned earlier, get the bike you want.
 
Not really!
You can order it straight out of Raleigh website and they will ship it to your nearest dealer and have him build it.

Got back in touch with our local shop - He said the Cadent came in yesterday and they have it ready for me to test ride (currently in the middle of a huge storm so tomorrow I'll pop in). He said it shouldn't be a problem to get the Lore in if i test ride the Cadent and really prefer the comfort of the lore with the bosch motor. Huzzah!

You guys rock, thank you so much for all your help and advice. If I'm not a fan of the $1700 Cadent I'll stretch my budget a bit more and go with the $2400 Lore - and i'm pretty happy with both of those options thanks to you guys.

Regardless... my new steed shall be named, "Two-Mortgage-Payments-But-Thats-Okay-Treat-Yoself-2019" :p

I'll be sure to post pictures :)
 
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