They TRIED to rip me off, but I argued with them, so they repaired it for free, and it's still going strong after 12 years and thousands of miles. I can't really complain about it as it turned out.
Too many threads lately, lots of new eriders
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BigNerd
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I have a brand new Sony Betamax in its box sitting in the basement. Multiple decades old and I'm sure it will work when/if I need to replace the one in use now. When ya don't use things much (any) they shouldn't break down, right?
Not sure how that would apply in my situation in the slightest. In fact, it sounds exactly the opposite of the experience I shared above very clearly.
It broke down after just 4 months of use, "not used much" as you say.
It hasn't broken down in 12+ additional years with heavy use and thousands of miles.
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"Thousands" of miles in 4380+ days is about the same as leaving a new Betamax in the box to use later. The low-end bike you bought "broke-down" because the manufacturer used the cheapest possible components to maintain their profit margin and still sell something to you. You should hang a BaFang mid-drive on that same bike... after you let a shop bring it... back, no..., bring it up to standards. You will be amazed at how fast you stack up miles, making it more apparent why quality is so important. It's like being a kid again.
Your understanding is questionable as you have responded with the exact opposite understanding vs. what I have actually stated.
I stated it was a HIGHER end Trek bike. I can't make it any more clear than that. In fact, it was the second highest model available in that style in 2007. Trek is not considered cheap, especially the higher end models. You clearly haven't been around long.
Riding a standard bicycle "thousands" of miles is NOTHING like leaving a Betamax in a box unused. That's the most laughable comparison. That is your mistake for purchasing that. I haven't used videos tapes in a good number of years. LOL. But it has no relevance to anything I spoke about. Apples and oranges, as they say. My Trek has had heavy use.
No way would I take your suggestions of modifying my very reliable Trek standard bicycle, let alone let a shop do it, since I can do all my own maintenance. I will still use it as it is and will simply add an e-bike to my stable. There are some very nice ones I've found for $2500 and less. I could afford a lot more than that, but spending more money just to say you spent more money doesn't necessarily mean better value. Spend/waste your own money how you see fit.
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Hectors Ghost
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Sorry man..
Sorry man... ya lost me again.
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The difference between your bike and my Betamax is that my Betamax was the top-quality piece of equipment when it was new. It was priced at a point that the manufacturer and distributors could both profit and still be the best quality consumer VCR available. The only place Sony cut corners back them was advertising. Of course, a lower-priced version, with lesser quality became the standard. But it's you comparing apples to oranges... doing so by comparing a 2007 bicycle with a 2020 ebike.
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I've used Betamax for music for over 30 years, I'd still be using reel-to-reel but the Betamax is much better... but I can understand your mistake. Not much for watching television really I will happily bow to your knowledge.
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Many Tunnels where you ride?
As i mentioned to you elsewhere about your excessive ability to go through chains ( i know you would never like to hear it, but maybe it's the way you "ride"):The use of a throttle definitely changes the way I ride mostly at low speeds. Getting on and starting up-hill, crawling through pedestrians, crawling through vegetation, grass, single track and over rough surfaces. Best of all it helps me extend the range significantly, just like a motor cut-out does. It does change the bike from Class-1 to Class 2 but I can literally remove it in 10 mins. if someone noticed and wanted to press the matter. The throttle is also fantastic when moving fast and wanting to maintain speed, take a 5 sec. breather... every 15 to 20 seconds.I was riding with a Stromer chasing me and when I let him pull up alongside after about 10 minutes his 1st comment was, "MAN! You don't slow down at all on throttle!" He could ride at 30 mph in his top assist level but the throttle would only hold him at 27 mph. He had to pump constantly to stay at 30 and worse gain that 3 mph back after a rest. I was in level 3 of 9 and carrying front panniers, bar-bags, Fugoo XL, water, chair, and a battery twice the size of his.
I totally understand and agree about the low-end production ebikes, I don't think they are worth even the minimal money and try to steer people away from them. But I disagree with your choice of motors. I think mid-drives are a better set-up for ebikes. Especially anything that is going to have long legs, climb or pull/carry loads. How long does it take to change the back tire on the trail?
Quick update on Archon / Rohloff / Kindernay tests
I have done around 500 miles riding on the Archon (includes test rig and physical riding) across both Rohloff and Kindernay, and here are some results that riders should be aware of. Wattage Mode (as shipped) Rohloff Kindernay 750W Eco All gears work 1-14 All gears work 1-14 Sport All...
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Too many threads not involving bikes. You'd think it was car selling service now. "High powered ebike camping in a red car, blue, green, yellow, grey...?" People act like a little kid in a grocery cart trying to get mom's (anyone's) attention. "Look at me. Mom! Mom! MOOOOOOM!" "High powered ebike barrrrrrrrrrrrrf!" "Mom!" "Mom......." Come on filicide!
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