Specialized Turbo Vado SL: An Incredible E-Bike (User Club)

[Rás Cnoic]

I'm not a hater of Chinese things. I'm a hater of Chinese crap. It makes a huge difference.

Then you should probably subscribe to Trace Velo, he's bought and tested Chinese parts for years. Mostly road/gravel.
He rides and tests himself, not sponsored and gives honest reviews of what is good value, what works and what doesn't. And with parts he'll often ride for months giving long term reviews on wheels and drivetrain stuff.

Here's a Wheeltop review from him:

 

[Stefan Mikes]

Here's a Wheeltop review from him:

Thank you! Will watch after returning from my ride.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

We will see when my set comes I must be lucky to have a 1x drivetrain and an MTB shifter

 

[Twowheelxtc]

Because Jeremy, you've got lazy on understanding other people's accents from outside the US.

So... just to be clear... you, Stefan, hater of all things Chinese... purchased a CHINESE drivetrain?

I might need to sit down.

I’m not so sure Jeremy is lazy. Some peoples Scottish accents are completely incomprehensible to me too! .

 

[Jeremy McCreary]

I’m not so sure Jeremy is lazy. Some peoples Scottish accents are completely incomprehensible to me too! .

To our credit, we do try to learn to decipher UK accents. Watch at least one UK murder mystery a night. To be honest, the Scots aren't the only ones we need subtitles for.

Of course, if all Scots talked like Craig Furgeson, there'd be no problem. Miss that guy.

I watch all this UK mayhem mainly out of self-defense. When I started, the missus had already read thousands of murder mysteries and really knew her poisons. Now I'm learning the signs.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

There is a Netflix short series by title "Seven Dials" based on Agatha Christie's novel. The thing is set in the interwar period.

The heroine talks with a gentleman. He asks:
-- Do you think it could be about the club in Hunstanton Street?
-- It's Hunston.
-- Hunstanton?
-- It pronounces "Hunston"


Even with someone speaking Received Pronunciation, the place names are pronounced crazily? I know South London well. Once, I cycled in Southwark Street. As I stopped at the red light at a crossing, I was unsure if I recognised the place correctly so I asked a female cyclist:
-- Excuse me. Is the Soh-dock Bridge to the right?
-- ...?
-- Soh-dock Bridge?
-- Do you mean South-wark Bridge? -- she asked.
Then I knew she was a wrong person to ask It is Soh-dock.

 

[RunForTheHills]

When I visited the Boson area for work it was like that. Our office was in Waltham and every local corrected me on how to say the name of the city. It's pronounced something like Walth'm or Walthum. If you say Walth am, they don't like it. And the locals can't pronounce the letter R. The say cah for car and bah for bar.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

A bartender in Buxton (Peak District, England) could not understand me. Eventually, she got what I was saying and -- outraged -- corrected me: "It's Books-ton!" Actually, you need to learn the place names when you stay in the UK. Dah-by (Derby), Solsbury (Salisbury) and hundreds of other, starting with Lestah (Leicester) (You know, Mark "Jester of Lester" Selby, a known snooker player)

Most of -cester names are simplified like Woostah for Worcester. Until you hit Cirencester

Now, some British accents use the rolling "r" while the others drop it! It is insane for an English learner like myself!

American friends, please explain: I often hear American Youtubers pronouncing "been" as "ben". What's that?!

 

[Jeremy McCreary]

American friends, please explain: I often hear American Youtubers pronouncing "been" as "ben". What's that?!

An affectation? Never heard that in the US in real life.

Certainly not common practice in daily speech in my experience, but I'm old, and kids do crazy things sometimes.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

An affectation? Never heard that in the US in real life.

Certainly not common practice in daily speech in my experience, but I'm old, and kids do crazy things sometimes.

Jeremy, please open any new video of Gabriel Traveler on YT, and listen to him for a short time. The "I've ben" will appear. But it is not only him.

 

[Twowheelxtc]

A bartender in Buxton (Peak District, England) could not understand me. Eventually, she got what I was saying and -- outraged -- corrected me: "It's Books-ton!" Actually, you need to learn the place names when you stay in the UK. Dah-by (Derby), Solsbury (Salisbury) and hundreds of other, starting with Lestah (Leicester) (You know, Mark "Jester of Lester" Selby, a known snooker player)

Most of -cester names are simplified like Woostah for Worcester. Until you hit Cirencester

Now, some British accents use the rolling "r" while the others drop it! It is insane for an English learner like myself!

American friends, please explain: I often hear American Youtubers pronouncing "been" as "ben". What's that?!

And we have a place nearby (in England) called Cholomendy…..it’s pronounced Chumly. Crazy!

 

[Jeremy McCreary]

Jeremy, please open any new video of Gabriel Traveler on YT, and listen to him for a short time. The "I've ben" will appear. But it is not only him.

Not questioning that it happens on YT. Just observing that I've never once heard it in real life in my 77 years in the US. Nor on TV or in movies.

So no idea where those YouTubers got the idea. How old are they? Could English be a 2nd language for them? Could they be trying to start a new trend?

Many younger folks here seem to have little use for proper English spelling, grammar, and punctuation. Why not cut loose from proper pronunciation, too?

 

[Stefan Mikes]

So no idea where those YouTubers got the idea. How old are they? Could English be a 2nd language for them? Could they be trying to start a new trend?

Watch and listen to him, especially one of the last videos when he was stuck by Persian Gulf. He looks 50 and has American and Canadian passports.

 

[RunForTheHills]

There are regional differences in slang, dialect, and accents throughout the United States. It's a big place. Although that has been disappearing over the years with influence of television and other media. Watch the movie My Fair Lady. It's set in the UK, but the principles are the same. My dad, who was originally from New York, claimed that the words Mary, merry, and marry had three different pronunciations and Californians knew only one.

 

[Jeremy McCreary]

My dad, who was originally from New York, claimed that the words Mary, merry, and marry had three different pronunciations and Californians knew only one.

Fair enough, but we have 12 different words for surf.
;^}

 

[Rás Cnoic]

Fair enough, but we have 12 different words for surf.
;^}

Apparently there are 99 words for rain in Irish and only one for sun.

Figures.