Specialized Turbo Vado SL: An Incredible E-Bike (User Club)

[Lee F]

Surprised to find yesterday — while trying to clean and lube the SL's chain for the first time — that turning the pedals backwards doesn't move the chain. (Guess you can tell that this is my first mid-drive.)

Q1. Any easy way to do this task without a repair stand or hoist?

Q2. Any compelling reason to use something other than Rock N Roll Gold for both cleaning and lubrication?

Dealer told me yesterday that I should do this weekly in this sandy, salty environment. But realistically, the ONLY way for me to get this job done anywhere close to weekly is to keep it really simple. (I have an unused Park Tool chain degreaser gathering dust if that's a clue.)

Thanks!

It was mentioned earlier in the thread, Park Tools has a cleaning tool with a reversible handle.
Can you turn your bike over resting on the seat and bars, then use your Park Tool?

 

[Lee F]

My wife recently purchased a Turbo Vado SL 4.0 and it also has the front reflector mounted on top of the light. It didn't make sense to have a reflector on top of a light and went to remove it.
It appears if I remove the reflector the mount will not hold the light tight. Decided to leave it. With a hex key I did snug up the light and reflector. Both were loose.
I'm new to the site and working my way through this thread before doing a Introduction post.
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I removed the reflector. The nylon washers I planned to use as a spacer was slightly too thick so I used 2 stainless washers.
One of the fasteners that holds the light has external threads that thread into a barrel fastener on the other side that has internal threads.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

turning the pedals backwards doesn't move the chain

Yes, the gears get disconnected from the crankset.

Q1. Any easy way to do this task without a repair stand or hoist?

Invert the e-bike... Let it stand on the handlebars and the saddle. Then you can rotate the cranks in the desired direction.

Q2. Any compelling reason to use something other than Rock N Roll Gold for both cleaning and lubrication?

The best way to degrease the chain is using an automotive brake cleaner fluid spray. After the chain has dried out, you can use any chain lube (generally, these are universal or dry weather or wet weather). Pour a droplet of lube on any chain roller. After finished, wipe the chain so the lube only stays inside the rollers.

 

[Jeremy McCreary]

Well, it's happened again. For the 3rd time now in 42 SL 5.0 rides recorded by the Specialized app, no rider power data was saved.

Yet I saw real-time rider power on the TCU the whole time.

No idea what triggers this error. But this last time, I recall turning on the bike before opening the app, opposite my usual order. Maybe that's a clue.

Thoughts?

 

[Lee F]

Saw this video in post # 1,576 for a Specialized seat post clamp with rack attachment. It's 30.6 mm instead of the OEM 30.8 size for the Turbo Vado SL 4.0 step through.

We were in Des Moines yesterday so we stopped in at a bicycle shop that handles Specialized.
I bought one of the Specialized seat post clamps that has the attachment spots for the forward rack mount.
The clamp on Deb's bike shows 30.8 mm and the Specialized clamp showed 30.6.
The shop manager took a seat off a Vado SL 4.0 and made sure the clamp would fit.
I was impressed he took time to check that for me since we're from out of town.

While there I saw they had the Park Tool chain cleaner with the reversible handle that can also be used on e bikes and bought it.
I've used the regular one for many years and like it.

CM-5.3 Cyclone™ Chain Scrubber

Clean nearly any bicycle chain quickly, easily, and effectively without removing the chain from the bike.

www.parktool.com

 

[MartsEbike]

Bigger, better and lighter.

Crankbrothers Stamp 1 Gen 2 (Large) pedals compared to the original Vado SL pedals.

 

[Lee F]

Bigger, better and lighter.

Crankbrothers Stamp 1 Gen 2 (Large) pedals compared to the original Vado SL pedals.

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I might try a pair of those for my Hybrid.
I wear size 11. Would I be better off with the small or large?
My sandals measure 4 inches across where the cleat would go.
My shoes measure 4.25 inches across where the cleat would go.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

I might try a pair of those for my Hybrid.
I wear size 11. Would I be better off with the small or large?
My sandals measure 4 inches across where the cleat would go.
My shoes measure 4.25 inches across where the cleat would go.

I suggest the size Large. A lot of feet positions are available. (My shoe size is U.S. 12, and I always had Stamp L).

 

[MartsEbike]

I might try a pair of those for my Hybrid.
I wear size 11. Would I be better off with the small or large?
My sandals measure 4 inches across where the cleat would go.
My shoes measure 4.25 inches across where the cleat would go.

Yep as mentioned above by Stefan the large pedals should suit you fine. I'm about the same size as you (UK 10.5 = US 11.5), and they felt good, with loads of grip, no complaints.

This is the size guide on their website.

 

[Allan47.7339]

The Vado SL delivery pedals are just place holders. They are only slightly better than test ride pedals. They don't even bother to install them on Creo's because they are the first parts changed. I kept them in the junk parts bin when I had a Vado SL and reinstalled when I sold the bike. I am appalled at the Vado SL 2 reviews that mention the pedals but I assume they are just looking for something to complain about.

 

[2wheelsgood]

Yep as mentioned above by Stefan the large pedals should suit you fine. I'm about the same size as you (UK 10.5 = US 11.5), and they felt good, with loads of grip, no complaints.

This is the size guide on their website.

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I got the small as I am a EU 43 and they seem perfectly sized for me. Great pedals though, one of those purchases where you cannot see yourself buying any different in the future.

I will be in the market for some clip-ins as an alternative in the new year though. I have another bike holiday in April and I could not keep up on some of the full on road bike ride outs in September as I was just in trainers and flat pedals (on a rented road bike, not my Turbo) and everyone else was in clip-ins and a few had their own bikes shipped over as well. I kept up fine on the routes but the rides always ended in a 3-5km sprint and I could not hold the front runners wheels after about 2km.

Rematch in April - training starts Jan 1st

 

[Lee F]

The Vado SL delivery pedals are just place holders. They are only slightly better than test ride pedals. They don't even bother to install them on Creo's because they are the first parts changed. I kept them in the junk parts bin when I had a Vado SL and reinstalled when I sold the bike. I am appalled at the Vado SL 2 reviews that mention the pedals but I assume they are just looking for something to complain about.

Most of our bikes over the years came without pedals. When I tried Debbie's Vado SL my feet would slid off the pedals so I replaced them with pedals from one of our old bikes.
These grip better.

 

[MartsEbike]

I got the small as I am a EU 43 and they seem perfectly sized for me. Great pedals though, one of those purchases where you cannot see yourself buying any different in the future.

I will be in the market for some clip-ins as an alternative in the new year though. I have another bike holiday in April and I could not keep up on some of the full on road bike ride outs in September as I was just in trainers and flat pedals (on a rented road bike, not my Turbo) and everyone else was in clip-ins and a few had their own bikes shipped over as well. I kept up fine on the routes but the rides always ended in a 3-5km sprint and I could not hold the front runners wheels after about 2km.

Rematch in April - training starts Jan 1st

Yeah, I'm impressed with them! I paid just £48 and I feel they are great value at that price. They have virtually all the goodness of the more expensive Stamp 7 pedals but at a third of the price. Plus they're about 25g lighter too! Composite vs Aluminium. My Hope pedals on my Frey cost £130 and there's no noticeable difference. Both are excellent, but these will be my go-to pedals in future.

I have a slight fear of clip-ins. Falling over! But they do allow you to get the power down! I might try them if I ever buy a racing/drop-bar bike.

Good luck with the rematch

 

[BioWheel]

The Vado SL delivery pedals are just place holders. They are only slightly better than test ride pedals. They don't even bother to install them on Creo's because they are the first parts changed. I kept them in the junk parts bin when I had a Vado SL and reinstalled when I sold the bike. I am appalled at the Vado SL 2 reviews that mention the pedals but I assume they are just looking for something to complain about.

I like the stock pedals. When they eventually kick back there's less pain than the MTB type. Seem to last.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

Stock Specialized pedals are surprisingly similar to VP-831P These cost £31, so are not completely free. Good pedals indeed. However, anyone who has tried Stamps has never gone back to regular pedals like VPs.
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I can see BioWheels achievements on Strava. I still suffer from a defeat to my mate Wojtek (47) -- who could win the last e-Sprint race (riding a totally unmodified Vado SL 4.0) if not the fact the winner was younger, stronger, and she rode a more powerful e-bike. Which just proves that the equipment doesn't matter as much as the athlete

 

[Stefan Mikes]

I bought a Lezyne Strip Drive Pro 400+ for my "de-equipped" Vado SL. Now, I start regretting the choice! The tail-light is terribly bright! I intend to use it in the two lowest modes: blinking for the daylight and Economic for the night.

There is an interesting text in the instruction: 'This product must not be sold in Germany'. Guess why. Too bright, not StVZO. I miss my lost Knog Road Blinder R70 so much! The advantage of Lezyne, however, is that its rubber mount is very solid and holds securely!

 

[Jeremy McCreary]

I bought a Lezyne Strip Drive Pro 400+ for my "de-equipped" Vado SL. Now, I start regretting the choice! The tail-light is terribly bright! I intend to use it in the two lowest modes: blinking for the daylight and Economic for the night.

There is an interesting text in the instruction: 'This product must not be sold in Germany'. Guess why. Too bright, not StVZO. I miss my lost Knog Road Blinder R70 so much! The advantage of Lezyne, however, is that its rubber mount is very solid and holds securely!

So a Lezyne Strip Drive Pro 400+ can't be sold in Germany cuz it's too bright, but a Knog Road Blinder's OK?

 

[Stefan Mikes]

So a Lezyne Strip Drive Pro 400+ can't be sold in Germany cuz it's too bright, but a Knog Road Blinder's OK?

The old Road Blinder had the maximum light output of 70 lm, while Lezyne can produce 400 lumens. Actually, the Economic mode on the Lezyne is 80 lumens!
With the Knog, I was using the most delicate flashing mode for daytime, and only two of four LEDs for the night. Lezyne has an array of many LEDs, four of them used for Economic.

 

[JoeDirt]

Well today I got a chance to test ride the new vato SL 6.0 EQ full carbon.
I'm not qualified to give a full review so I will make this short. On flat surface in eco mode starting out and going through all assist levels up to Turbo I was pushing 25 26 mph with a very nice assist. I ran out of my quarter mile so I turned around and started the test over this time feeling the torque assist in each mode shifting into higher years. One thing that I will say this bike feels like riding a regular bicycle the sensors are very smooth in that respect.

I'm not sure if this is the lightest Vado made, but I can pick it up with one hand and easily lift it up sideways.

I will say that the Bosch performance line speed motor for my buck has a little more thrill.

If specialized put the performance line speed in this Frame, the bike it would be stellar and I would definitely spend the $6,500 on it.

Just seemed a little lackluster on the torque curve and it reminded me so much of the Trek Verve + 3 that I returned only lighter.

One last note the cassette is very large designed for serious climbing and that might be where the lightness of the bike excels. Most likely mountainous areas this would be great.

 

[Lee F]

I like the stock pedals. When they eventually kick back there's less pain than the MTB type. Seem to last.

The other day when we stopped at the bike shop I asked the manager about aluminum flat MTB pedals for Debbie's Vado SL and he mentioned with E Bikes it was easy to skin your legs until you got used to them.