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[Sierratim]

What brand chain was damaged? SierraTim also had a damaged chain, same brand?

Yes, they are the same brand. I had no issues with this chain before changing gearing. The problem was isolated to a spliced portion of the same model chain.

 

[Sierratim]

Stefan, as I'm sure you and your brother know the HG701-11 chain is directional. Is it possible that it was installed backwards?

This was my first thought when I had my first chain failure, but both the new chain and the spliced length were both correct...

 

[Marcela]

What brand quick links? I know the shimano brand are $. Maybe that is the reason?

 

[Sierratim]

What brand quick links? I know the shimano brand are $. Maybe that is the reason?

I'm using the recommended Shimano 11-speed master link. The outer plates that came loose on my chain were not close to the master link.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

Shimano

What brand chain was damaged? SierraTim also had a damaged chain, same brand?

Shimano XT CN-HG701-11-138.

Ideas: due to noticing the worn cogs late and using them with the new chain? Or a not correctly mounted Shimano pin/quick lock?

Everything was done almost correctly but I seem to install the extra pins wrongly when I was shortening the chain. Perhaps this.
Or (is it possible?!), could I damage the chain when degreasing it in a Decathlon degreasing tool?!

Stefan, as I'm sure you and your brother know the HG701-11 chain is directional. Is it possible that it was installed backwards?

Absolutely correctly. I could use the pins wrongly when splicing that chain myself.

What brand quick links? I know the shimano brand are $. Maybe that is the reason?

Shimano, for 11-speed chains.

 

[TS25]

... was done almost correctly but I seem to install the extra pins wrongly when I was shortening the chain. Perhaps this.
Or (is it possible?!), could I damage the chain when degreasing it in a Decathlon degreasing tool?!

Absolutely correctly. I could use the pins wrongly when splicing that chain myself.
Shimano, for 11-speed chains.

FWIW Shimano (as well as KMC) quick-links are not reusable, I trust you are aware of that.

Degreasing the chain in the classical tool can't have had that impact on your chain.

I would mark the chain pin that I mounted myself, just to find it better when checking shortly afterwards.

Are you shure you've got the CN-HG701-11 chain?

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I'm not Rando but I can tell you the battery range mostly depends on the rider's power input and on too many factors to give the definitive answer. Yet, for anybody concerned with the Vado range, the UI-600 Specialized battery (including a separately ordered cover) is available for less than...

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We are not made equal, Barry 😊 Or equally healthy. Would you guess why I bought my e-bikes? Yes, it is an extra item for US$25. @Ebiker53: Not sure if you could ride without the cover. Certainly it wouldn't look good. Besides, I am of the opinion batteries should be rotated as it gives both...

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Or is it still the e8000? Can't see you changing chains every other month or so.

 

[Sierratim]

My Vado 5 came equipped with the Shimano CN-HG601-11 chain. I rode this for the first 1,000 miles then switched to the CN-HG-701-11 chain.

 

[TS25]

I know. My question addressed Stefan.

 

[FlatSix911]

FWIW Shimano (as well as KMC) quick-links are not reusable, I trust you are aware of that.

Degreasing the chain in the classical tool can't have had that impact on your chain.

I would mark the chain pin that I mounted myself, just to find it better when checking shortly afterwards.

Are you shure you've got the CN-HG701-11 chain?

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I'm not Rando but I can tell you the battery range mostly depends on the rider's power input and on too many factors to give the definitive answer. Yet, for anybody concerned with the Vado range, the UI-600 Specialized battery (including a separately ordered cover) is available for less than...

electricbikereview.com

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We are not made equal, Barry 😊 Or equally healthy. Would you guess why I bought my e-bikes? Yes, it is an extra item for US$25. @Ebiker53: Not sure if you could ride without the cover. Certainly it wouldn't look good. Besides, I am of the opinion batteries should be rotated as it gives both...

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Or is it still the e8000? Can't see you changing chains every other month or so.

You're just fine re-using a non-reusable quick link a couple of times but they will wear out eventually.

When you re-attach it to the chain you can feel the resistance as it clicks in... if it still feels tight leave it on.

 

[Sierratim]

You're just fine re-using a non-reusable quick link a couple of times but they will wear out eventually.

When you re-attach it to the chain you can feel the resistance as it clicks in... if it still feels tight leave it on.

I too reuse the non-reusable 11-speed master links, though I do carry a new spare with me just in case.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

FWIW Shimano (as well as KMC) quick-links are not reusable, I trust you are aware of that.

Degreasing the chain in the classical tool can't have had that impact on your chain.

I would mark the chain pin that I mounted myself, just to find it better when checking shortly afterwards.

Are you shure you've got the CN-HG701-11 chain?

Specialized Turbo Vado/Como/Tero/Tero X User Club

I'm not Rando but I can tell you the battery range mostly depends on the rider's power input and on too many factors to give the definitive answer. Yet, for anybody concerned with the Vado range, the UI-600 Specialized battery (including a separately ordered cover) is available for less than...

electricbikereview.com

Specialized Turbo Vado/Como/Tero/Tero X User Club

We are not made equal, Barry 😊 Or equally healthy. Would you guess why I bought my e-bikes? Yes, it is an extra item for US$25. @Ebiker53: Not sure if you could ride without the cover. Certainly it wouldn't look good. Besides, I am of the opinion batteries should be rotated as it gives both...

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Or is it still the e8000? Can't see you changing chains every other month or so.

Correct. That was the CN-E8000. What I ordered now was the 701. Easy to get confused.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

Perhaps you're interested how the Third-Party Insurance defines S-Pedelec Vado in Poland?

Make, model, type ("NO TYPE"). Plate Number. Vehicle Identification Number. Number of Seats. Manufacturing Year. Total Allowable Load. Kind: Moped. First Registered Date. Fuel: ELECTRIC. Used as: a cab, a lease, a prop, for driving lessons, for racing, or for demo rides? NOT

@TS25: That might be of interest for you since our countries are not that different. I hear you have to possess the driving license to ride an L1e-B in Germany. In Poland, driving license for a Speed-Pedelec is only pertaining to people younger than 27 (it is because the law never acts backwards, etc.)

 

[TS25]

@TS25: That might be of interest for you since our countries are not that different. I hear you have to possess the driving license to ride an L1e-B in Germany. In Poland, driving license for a Speed-Pedelec is only pertaining to people younger than 27 (it is because the law never acts backwards, etc.)

C&P of my PM 05.08.20 to you (didn't know up to now that your secretary reads aloud your mails to you ):

Driving licence or not for S-pedelecs in Germany is very complicated stuff, even the policeman aren't shure about it. Why is this so?

Until 2017 a lot of S-pedelecs were classified as L1e-A bbH 20 km/h (like a "Mofa"), please don't ask me why ;-).
So if you were born before 01.04.1965 you don't need a driving licence for those S-pedelecs, and if you were born after 01.04.1965 you need a simple ´'Mofa-Prüfbescheinigung' (I wouldn't call that a driving licence but you had to pass a short official test to get it).

Since 2018 S-pedelecs are classified as L1e-B KKR (like a "Moped") and you do need a driving licence class AM for them in Germany.
This class AM is always included in your car or motorbike or small motorbike driving licence. If you're heading for the class AM solely you have to be at least 16 years old but there might be exemptions for 15 year old people in some parts of Germany.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

As I said before, our both countries were similar to each other @TS25. The rules related to L1e-B in Poland are similar to German ones, with one major distinction. Any person who was 18 years old before the Law on Vehicle Drivers was announced (5th of January 2011) can ride a L1e-B without any license. That means, no license needed for 27-yo or older in Poland. Youngsters can make the AM license. The old "moped card" is replaced with the AM license, anyone holding a motorbike or car driving license is OK with that, too.

For instance, the younger of Jacek's sons holds the AM license.

Note: Insurance is another thing. My Third-Party policy explicitly doesn't allow riding my Vado any person younger than 25 years of age, or who holds the driving license for less than 36 months.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

I rode to a local hardware store of Mr. Kazimierz today to see if he had any replacement for Loctite (not; I would have to drive or ride to Warsaw for the fluid). In front of the store, I was approached by two guys stunned by the fact they could see a bike with the number plate... I had to explain it again!

 

[TS25]

In front of the store, I was approached by two guys stunned by the fact they could see a bike with the number plate...

So it could be a good idea to attach a number plate to your bike so to be addressed by ladies, too?
Or is it just guys?

 

[Stefan Mikes]

So it could be a good idea to attach a number plate to your bike so to be addressed by ladies, too?
Or is it just guys?

Only guys!

 

[Stefan Mikes]

In case anyone's interested...

Completely worn out TRP Q20.11 front brake pad. It lasted for over 4000 km (2500 mi) only because I mostly ride in the plains

 

[Sierratim]

In case anyone's interested...

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Completely worn out TRP Q20.11 front brake pad. It lasted for over 4000 km (2500 mi) only because I mostly ride in the plains

How's the rotor?

 

[Stefan Mikes]

How's the rotor?

In perfect shape!