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Stefan Mikes said:
Tim, exactly as I thought. The manager replied he would have to destroy all old parts including the 600 lm light. They will also charge a lot of money for the drive-train replacement. Instead of telling me to bring the spare battery for reprogramming on Monday so I could collect it together with the bike on Tuesday, he tells me to bring the battery on Tuesday to collect it on Wednesday. As if software update took 24 h.

You understand there will be no second chance for them.
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Very frustrating.
 
Stefan Mikes said:
... the guy wanted to know if I agreed to replace the chain and the cassette (as those had worn out he said). Well, some 1000 miles on the odometer, can't remember exactly.
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First chain? And then the cassette is worn out, too :oops: ? Please check the mileage.

It's common that the cassette is worn after 2-3 chains.
 
Just dropped my bike at LBS to get a new chain. 2,000 miles and park tool told me it was stretched.
Also asked to update the firmware. A bit nervous about this as last time the firmware was updated the bike started having issues with motor not responding which ended up with a new motor. 🤞🤞
I also checked out the new Levo Comp....me wanteeeeeeeeeee. Wife killeeeeeee
Only $6,000
 
Nxkharra said:
Just dropped my bike at LBS to get a new chain. 2,000 miles and park tool told me it was stretched.
Also asked to update the firmware. A bit nervous about this as last time the firmware was updated the bike started having issues with motor not responding which ended up with a new motor. 🤞🤞
I also checked out the new Levo Comp....me wanteeeeeeeeeee. Wife killeeeeeee
Only $6,000
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So, get the wife the ebike of her choice and you're good to go for the Levo...😎

Your LBS didn't happen to explain the TCD-W anti-theft feature did they?
 
Sierratim said:
So, get the wife the ebike of her choice and you're good to go for the Levo...😎

Your LBS didn't happen to explain the TCD-W anti-theft feature did they?
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I did remember to ask but everyone had masks on and soooo busy. He was running around. He said he can’t keep the Levo in the shop. They are flying and people buying them.
Wife does not ride solo anymore. Age related I guess. We had a nice Cannondale tandem and we got too old, grumpy, and weak for that so we sold that. The other option for her to ride is electric tandem. But I will not get my Levo that way. If she decides to get a solo electric bike I will buy a Vado for her in a minute if that gets me To my Levo and I will keep my Vado.
I will ask when I pick up the bike.
 
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Nxkharra said:
I also checked out the new Levo Comp....me wanteeeeeeeeeee. Wife killeeeeeee
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@Nxkharra, if you only can, do the demo ride of the Levo Comp against Giant Trance E+ 3 Pro (the E+ 1 Pro doesn't offer the features you would find necessary but it is $5600 against $4500). You know the Levo Comp was my dream but it isn't anymore. I'm enchanted with my Trance E+ 2 Pro (unavailable in the U.S.).

Interesting fact is that the Levo is a far taller bike than the Trance is (it comes from the rear suspension design). It is far easier for me to get onto the Trance. And when I realise how much money I saved on that perfect e-MTB, you can see a big grin on my face ;)

It would be also good for you to check how the battery is removed and replaced in both bikes. In the Trance, you unlock the battery with a key but the battery still stays in the place. You "click" a little latch at the battery top and it slides down into your hands. Better, when you are replacing the Trance battery, you just align the bottom of it with the harness, a slight hand movement and... the battery has clicked into the place as if it did it itself. A miracle!
 
Stefan Mikes said:
@Nxkharra, if you only can, do the demo ride of the Levo Comp against Giant Trance E+ 3 Pro (the E+ 1 Pro doesn't offer the features you would find necessary but it is $5600 against $4500). You know the Levo Comp was my dream but it isn't anymore. I'm enchanted with my Trance E+ 2 Pro (unavailable in the U.S.).

Interesting fact is that the Levo is a far taller bike than the Trance is (it comes from the rear suspension design). It is far easier for me to get onto the Trance. And when I realise how much money I saved on that perfect e-MTB, you can see a big grin on my face ;)

It would be also good for you to check how the battery is removed and replaced in both bikes. In the Trance, you unlock the battery with a key but the battery still stays in the place. You "click" a little latch at the battery top and it slides down into your hands. Better, when you are replacing the Trance battery, you just align the bottom of it with the harness, a slight hand movement and... the battery has clicked into the place as if it did it itself. A miracle!
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The key word(a) is “unavailable in US”
 
Nxkharra said:
A friend new to eBike is looking at Giant Explore E+ 3 and asked my opinion. US$2,500. Entry level I think.
what do you think @Stefan Mikes
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Yes that's an entry level bike which doesn't mean that's a crap. The 400 Wh battery is what you have paid for. Giant EnergyPak batteries are compatible and your friend could negotiate the upgrade to the 500 Wh battery. The real problem with Giant bikes is one model looks beautifully while another seems ugly and cheap because of the way it was painted. Your friend has to see the bike in person.
 
Stefan Mikes said:
Yes that's an entry level bike which doesn't mean that's a crap. The 400 Wh battery is what you have paid for. Giant EnergyPak batteries are compatible and your friend could negotiate the upgrade to the 500 Wh battery. The real problem with Giant bikes is one model looks beautifully while another seems ugly and cheap because of the way it was painted. Your friend has to see the bike in person.
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He has looked here it is
 

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pmcdonald said:
I like my E+1
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What is exactly your model? Giant are very confusing with so many models, model year, and regional availability. If I had no e-bike yet, the E+ 1 Pro GTS is one I might have bought myself but it is closer to US$4000.

Regarding to @Nxkharra friend, there's nothing wrong with the E+ 3 for the budget.
 
Stefan Mikes said:
What is exactly your model? Giant are very confusing with so many models, model year, and regional availability. If I had no e-bike yet, the E+ 1 Pro GTS is one I might have bought myself but it is closer to US$4000.

Regarding to @Nxkharra friend, there's nothing wrong with the E+ 3 for the budget.
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This is my model: https://www.giant-bicycles.com/au/explore-eplus-1-25km-h

I bought it for AU$4000, which is like USD$2600. $4k US sounds a bit steep, even if it does pack the gruntier Pro motor.

Mine comes with the Sport, the rest of the specs seem the same. I haven't found a hill the Sport motor has balked at yet, including a couple of insane near-20% gradients recently.
 
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Your bike looks beautifully! I've looked to the specs and there is a good sus fork, good brakes etc. Now if you look to the Giant Bikes Poland, you'll notice the Explore "1" models are different and in the range of USD3800-4000. They must have that yet different in the U. S.
 
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