Should I buy Haibike Fullseven 9.0 LT?

[Anon554477]

I am looking for a bike that is a good all around bike. 80 percent of my riding is paved, 10 percent is crushed limestone and the rest is gravel/dirt. I am getting a great price on the Haibike Fullseven 9.0 LT but not sure how well it will do on the pavement. Ideally I wanted a gravel bike, is there a better option around 3k. Thanks

 

[Anon554477]

Could anyone please provide input?

 

[TomD]

It's a really nice buy if you want a capable eMTB. Probably not the best choice for riding 80% paved, but depends on your preferences. You could probably swap out the tires to something more pavement friendly, assuming the rims are compatible with 2.4" tires:

New Favorite Tire - Schwalbe Hurricane

Schwalbe has come out with a new tire for 2020, the Hurricane. I have been riding on a pair for two weeks now. In the main, middle tread, the tire has ridges of micro knobs, similar to those found on skinny gravel tires, with a center strip of fine ridges. There are aggressive, bulky knobs at...

electricbikereview.com

Beyond that, depends on whether you want to add a rack, prefer a more upright riding position, etc. You will also be limited to 20mph unless you plan to get a tuning dongle.

 

[Anon554477]

It's a really nice buy if you want a capable eMTB. Probably not the best choice for riding 80% paved, but depends on your preferences. You could probably swap out the tires to something more pavement friendly, assuming the rims are compatible with 2.4" tires:

New Favorite Tire - Schwalbe Hurricane

Schwalbe has come out with a new tire for 2020, the Hurricane. I have been riding on a pair for two weeks now. In the main, middle tread, the tire has ridges of micro knobs, similar to those found on skinny gravel tires, with a center strip of fine ridges. There are aggressive, bulky knobs at...

electricbikereview.com

Beyond that, depends on whether you want to add a rack, prefer a more upright riding position, etc. You will also be limited to 20mph unless you plan to get a tuning dongle.

The shop is installing the following for me. With everything I am just over 3k. They stated this will make the ride more upright for me. Thoughts?

TA2096E QR BEAMRACK MTX E-TYPE FOR STD FRAMES*
Spank Spike 50mm rise handlebar, 100mm stem *
Moderate ride geometry padded bike saddle *
The Mrs Bottle Set*

 

[TomD]

Sounds like a fantastic buy. I think it's on sale for $3500 so they must be discounting it another $500. I'd say if you have LBS support and they will go the extra mile to make it work for you then go for it. Worst case you'll be able to flip it without losing too much. If you haven't gone for a test ride yet, I'd do that before pulling the trigger.

 

[BlackHand]

That does sound like a good deal. But I saw from your other post that you're 6'5". Definitely make sure you get some time on the bike and that it fits you properly before letting them finalize the sale.

 

[Anon554477]

That does sound like a good deal. But I saw from your other post that you're 6'5". Definitely make sure you get some time on the bike and that it fits you properly before letting them finalize the sale.

It will be mailed to me unfortunately. The salesman is 6'4 and will do his best to set it up for him. It's 3215 shipped to my home with all upgrades. I am going to ask for them to replace the tires with Schwalbe Hurricanes which will be better on the road.

On a side note, would you pick this haibike or like the Biktrix Juggernaut Ultra 1000? I have a think for fat bikes but not sure how realistic riding 40 miles will be on one. Any other bikes I should look at as well? My wife rides a Trek Checkpoint Alr5 do I need something as versatile but more upright.

 

[rich c]

I ride a 2016 Haibike XDURO Full Seven S RX. It was a demo and had Super Moto X tires so works great on pavement, rock, dirt (if I'm not climbing on a single track in mud, but our local trail system is off limits if it's muddy). I also lower the pressure on rocks and roots, and never wants for traction. Went over 3,200 miles today, I'm a huge Haibike/Bosch fan!

 

[Anon554477]

I ride a 2016 Haibike XDURO Full Seven S RX. It was a demo and had Super Moto X tires so works great on pavement, rock, dirt (if I'm not climbing on a single track in mud, but our local trail system is off limits if it's muddy). I also lower the pressure on rocks and roots, and never wants for traction. Went over 3,200 miles today, I'm a huge Haibike/Bosch fan!

So go for it? Are the stock tires OK for majority of street riding? They are schwalbe nobby nic Snakeskin

 

[FlatSix911]

So go for it? Are the stock tires OK for majority of street riding? They are schwalbe nobby nic Snakeskin

For the road I would recommend Schwalbe Super Moto or Big Bens... Nobby Nics are great for off-road.

 

[Anon554477]

For the road I would recommend Schwalbe Super Moto or Big Bens... Nobby Nics are great for off-road.

What about schwalbe Hurricane?

 

[TomD]

Where are you buying this? Lennys? Do they have the XL in stock? If not I wouldn't buy if they are trying to tweak a smaller size to fit you.

Another option to consider, assuming you can't find the Haibike in your size is the Luna X1. I normally wouldn't suggest it for 80% street, lol, but they do sell it in a XL frame . Currently on sale for $3490. Upgrade to the silent gear for another $200, plus $150 shipping, it will be $3840. You'll save $150 not having to buy a tuning dongle to exceed 20mph but you'll eventually want to swap out the front chain ring to go faster than 25 mph. Probably 50% more power than the Bosch, but less refined torque sensing. They have the Matte Black back in stock which is the color to get. (Edit: matte black is pre-order but on the water with mid may delivery, pretty sure the XL glossy black is in stock).

X2 Enduro Ebike

Carbon fiber mid drive beauty.

lunacycle.com

That said, just make sure you want a FS eMTB for city riding.

 

[BlackHand]

On a side note, would you pick this haibike or like the Biktrix Juggernaut Ultra 1000? I have a think for fat bikes but not sure how realistic riding 40 miles will be on one. Any other bikes I should look at as well? My wife rides a Trek Checkpoint Alr5 do I need something as versatile but more upright.

I actually had the Juggernaut in my cart a few times, it's got some nice options for sure. The Haibike is going to be a much higher quality frame and at least as nice components. I agree about swapping tires to something more road friendly.

FYI, I have a somewhat similar use case as you and have a SDURO Trekking S 9.0 on the way.

 

[TomD]

The Juggernaut would strike me as quite the compromise, kind of like settling for the least compelling option at the bar to go home with.

 

[BlackHand]

The Juggernaut would strike me as quite the compromise, kind of like settling for the least compelling option at the bar to go home with.

Yeah, that's how it kept getting into my cart but I could never bring myself to checkout: it ticked all my boxes except I didn't actually WANT to buy it.

 

[Anon554477]

I actually had the Juggernaut in my cart a few times, it's got some nice options for sure. The Haibike is going to be a much higher quality frame and at least as nice components. I agree about swapping tires to something more road friendly.

FYI, I have a somewhat similar use case as you and have a SDURO Trekking S 9.0 on the way.

I just wish the trekking had the larger size available. I may try to call around for it today.

 

[Anon554477]

I did find a bulls twenty8 e45 in my price range, same exact out the door at another shop. Which one should I go for? Not sure how the bulls will do on limestone and gravel on the small occasion we go on it.

 

[E-Wheels]

I am looking for a bike that is a good all around bike. 80 percent of my riding is paved, 10 percent is crushed limestone and the rest is gravel/dirt. I am getting a great price on the Haibike Fullseven 9.0 LT but not sure how well it will do on the pavement. Ideally I wanted a gravel bike, is there a better option around 3k. Thanks

If you are considering a Haibike, just check what type of motor and drive sprocket it has, as you may have to pay a hefty premium to replace certain (if not all) Haibike-Bosch specific drive sprockets compared to Bosch drives and sprockets used by other manufacturers

Bosch Gen 2 Motor Drive Sprockets – e-bikeshop.co.uk

Finally an option to customise the gearing of your Bosch powered eBike. Compatible with Bosch Active / Performance Line / CX Motor Drive Units.

www.e-bikeshop.co.uk

Haibike xDuro 18t Bosch Drive Sprocket – e-bikeshop.co.uk

This is the factory original Haibike OEM 18t ebike Sprocket, machined out of one piece with bash ring in place.

www.e-bikeshop.co.uk

 

[TMH]

I did find a bulls twenty8 e45 in my price range, same exact out the door at another shop. Which one should I go for? Not sure how the bulls will do on limestone and gravel on the small occasion we go on it.

Bulls makes some excellent bikes and their U.S. customer support seems to be strong. And they currently have many of their bikes on sale, with an extra discount ($300 'EBIKEHORNSUP') on their web site.

You are correct though that the thinner tires on the Twenty8 e45 (or other similar bikes like the Lacuba Evo E45 or Urban Evo) will be much less stable on gravel as compared to the Haibike Trekking bikes. The Bulls bikes noted are really dedicated to the street.

It seems like the Bulls Six50 E 2 Street or Twenty9 Evo 1 would be more similar to the Haibike Trekking models, although the Bulls bikes will have a bit more agressive riding position or be a little less upright (efficiency over comfort).

 

[Anon554477]

Bulls makes some excellent bikes and their U.S. customer support seems to be strong. And they currently have many of their bikes on sale, with an extra discount ($300 'EBIKEHORNSUP') on their web site.

You are correct though that the thinner tires on the Twenty8 e45 (or other similar bikes like the Lacuba Evo E45 or Urban Evo) will be much less stable on gravel as compared to the Haibike Trekking bikes. The Bulls bikes noted are really dedicated to the street.

It seems like the Bulls Six50 E 2 Street or Twenty9 Evo 1 would be more similar to the Haibike Trekking models, although the Bulls bikes will have a bit more agressive riding position or be a little less upright (efficiency over comfort).

So in other words, stay with the Fullseven and just put Schwalbe Moto tires on it?