Replacing My Schwalbe G-One Tires?

[Sparky731]

I've owned my new Trek Allant+ 7S since January 2021, and I enjoy riding it every day only on smooth roads (asphalt and concrete) in my neighborhood and nearby neighborhoods. Each ride is about 9 miles traveling on dry surfaces that are hilly and with some streets that are quite steep in northern San Diego. I'm a careful rider who doesn't do any tricks like skidding or hitting pot holes or curbs. Every four days when I charge my battery, I top off my tires just a few pound of pressure to keep my tires somewhat hard (maximum 54 psi as per Schwalbe for my G-One All Round RG tires that came with my Trek Allant).

With 1,971 miles on my ebike, I'm noticing some wear on the nubby tread (topside in contrast to the sides) of my Schwalbe G-One tires. I don't know if Schwalbe or my Trek shop would see the wear as unusual or not for a warranty replacement or credit for new tires. But with a bike that is not even a year old, I'm wondering if anyone on the forum sees this as unusual wear or simply normal wear. At what point should tires be replaced?

Thanks!

I have the same bike, same tires, 2k miles, and really like the tires. My wear pattern is less but noticeable. I weigh ~150lbs and keep tire pressure in mid 40s. I also on occasion brake-slide my rear tire in the gravel just for fun. Sometimes on pavement. The lower pressure (recommended by Trek techs) helps smooth the ride and disburse the load across a wider footprint. Also per Trek, when they product-spec’d the bike they did not have a proper combination Bontrager tire with a Bontrager 27x2.75 Presta valve tube. Schwalbe is a good substitute. They still don’t have that Bontrager tube. FYI, I have swapped to Slime tubes.

 

[MrLibraryMan]

I have the same bike, same tires, 2k miles, and really like the tires. My wear pattern is less but noticeable. I weigh ~150lbs and keep tire pressure in mid 40s. I also on occasion brake-slide my rear tire in the gravel just for fun. Sometimes on pavement. The lower pressure (recommended by Trek techs) helps smooth the ride and disburse the load across a wider footprint. Also per Trek, when they product-spec’d the bike they did not have a proper combination Bontrager tire with a Bontrager 27x2.75 Presta valve tube. Schwalbe is a good substitute. They still don’t have that Bontrager tube. FYI, I have swapped to Slime tubes.

Sparky, it sounds like you enjoy your Allant+ 7S, but in a different way than I do, which is just fine and sounds like fun. However, I never go gravel or dirt, and I always use it as strictly a road bike. I try to keep mine inflated to the max of 54psi since I like to bike around 10 to 16mph or faster. Since I live in an area that is quite hilly, I don't want to have to fight my bike with less air in my tires, especially on inclines. I wonder if the Bontrager tires Trek outfitted the Allant+ 9.9S could be used. That would be the Bontrager E6 Hard-Case Lite, reflective, wire bead, 60tpi, 27.5x2.40'' which would fit the same rim we have on the Allant+ 7S. Aside from asking my Trek shop technician, I wonder if anyone has upgraded to the Bontrager E6 and would like to share his/her experiences.

 

[Sparky731]

Sparky, it sounds like you enjoy your Allant+ 7S, but in a different way than I do, which is just fine and sounds like fun. However, I never go gravel or dirt, and I always use it as strictly a road bike. I try to keep mine inflated to the max of 54psi since I like to bike around 10 to 16mph or faster. Since I live in an area that is quite hilly, I don't want to have to fight my bike with less air in my tires, especially on inclines. I wonder if the Bontrager tires Trek outfitted the Allant+ 9.9S could be used. That would be the Bontrager E6 Hard-Case Lite, reflective, wire bead, 60tpi, 27.5x2.40'' which would fit the same rim we have on the Allant+ 7S. Aside from asking my Trek shop technician, I wonder if anyone has upgraded to the Bontrager E6 and would like to share his/her experiences.

I contacted Trek Tech support when seeking a replacement Trek tube and they confirmed they did not have one to fit the bike. Yes, I love my 7s. It is a fun toy for this 70 yr old. 27.5mph is my solo cruising speed, but ride the pack‘s speed with others. I added the Range boost battery and upgraded the RIB to 650W to cover my daily ride in Turbo. Barely enough watts.

 

[Mulezen]

I replaced my Allant 9s’ Bontragers (after 1k) with Schwab Mondials. I upgraded my rims and kept the old wheels mounted. These are 2.0 rather 2.4 and though seemingly knobbier are a fine ride and more secure on my 500’ gravel drive. No flats and little wear after more than two thousand miles

 

[MrLibraryMan]

Not to suggest anything to anyone but...

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A Schwalbe Smart Sam, installed on my Vado on September 17th, 2020. It has accumulated at least 6,000 km since. Thoughts?

The tread is too aggressive for my style of biking. Thanks for sharing.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

The tread is too aggressive for style of biking. Thanks for sharing.

It is absolutely easy rolling and silent on-road.

 

[First Light]

Schwalde makes great tires and for the life of me I can not figure out why so many eBike manufacturers put the knobby Schwalbe's on their eBikes? Their knobby ones came on my eBike several years ago and I got about 4500 miles out of them riding 95% of the time on pavement. Then I switched to Schwalbe Big Bens & they are a much better street tire.

 

[MrLibraryMan]

Schwalde makes great tires and for the life of me I can not figure out why so many eBike manufacturers put the knobby Schwalbe's on their eBikes? Their knobby ones came on my eBike several years ago and I got about 4500 miles out of them riding 95% of the time on pavement. Then I switched to Schwalbe Big Bens & they are a much better street tire.

I don't know if Trek went for a special deal from Schwalbe that fits the geometry of the bike, or they couldn't decide what kind of riders would ride the Allant+7S and so they went with something that is as universal as possible. I'm kind of leaning to the former.

I'm looking to get a pair of Schwalbe Marathon E-Plus tires since this model's specs seem to fit the kind of biking I do.

 

[Sparky731]

I don't know if Trek went for a special deal from Schwalbe that fits the geometry of the bike, or they couldn't decide what kind of riders would ride the Allant+7S and so they went with something that is as universal as possible. I'm kind of leaning to the former.

I'm looking to get a pair of Schwalbe Marathon E-Plus tires since this model's specs seem to fit the kind of biking I do.

According to Trek the 7s was the original “Super Commuter.” It was designed for relatively inexpensive high speed commuting over a variety of road surface conditions. Important to its utility in purpose were both the front suspended fork and the semi-rugged tires. A key difference in price to the 8s and 9s to offset the cost of the fork is drive train componentry which we 7s owners always have the opportunity to upgrade to at some point. Mine was at ~1,200 miles.

 

[MrLibraryMan]

According to Trek the 7s was the original “Super Commuter.” It was designed for relatively inexpensive high speed commuting over a variety of road surface conditions. Important to its utility in purpose were both the front suspended fork and the semi-rugged tires. A key difference in price to the 8s and 9s to offset the cost of the fork is drive train componentry which we 7s owners always have the opportunity to upgrade to at some point. Mine was at ~1,200 miles.

Interesting. I always thought the next step up from my old 2016 Trek Lyft+ was a 2016 Trek Super Commuter.

So far, knock on wood, my other components are just fine. However, when the time comes, it will be nice to check on the reliability and the compatibility of the drive train components from the 8S and 9.9S. Those could be our testers.

 

[Sparky731]

Interesting. I always thought the next step up from my old 2016 Trek Lyft+ was a 2016 Trek Super Commuter.

So far, knock on wood, my other components are just fine. However, when the time comes, it will be nice to check on the reliability and the compatibility of the drive train components from the 8S and 9.9S. Those could be our testers.

One of the beater drive train upgrades I found is to Trek’s more durable e-chain, which does not seem to be standard issue on Trek e-bikes. Maybe the 2022s will have it. If replaced early enough it can extend the life of the cassette. I wish I had known it even existed earlier.

 

[Sparky731]

Interesting. I always thought the next step up from my old 2016 Trek Lyft+ was a 2016 Trek Super Commuter.

So far, knock on wood, my other components are just fine. However, when the time comes, it will be nice to check on the reliability and the compatibility of the drive train components from the 8S and 9.9S. Those could be our testers.

Lore is that the Super Commuter morphed into the Allant line wearing the 7s badge. Which aligns with a slight transition in model lines.

 

[Mulezen]

My first Trek was a Super Commuter 7. It came with Schwabe Motos…Sold it with about 2k on it. All components fine. On my Allan 9.s I have mare than 3k miles on it with chain and cassette original issue