tomjasz
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Question on serial numbered Bafang motors?
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Gionnirocket
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I would get 1 left and 1 right... just incase
tomjasz
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You sure you’re not Polish?I would get 1 left and 1 right... just incase
Nvreloader
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Ok GuysPossible that they just changed the male/female orientation? Note the motor end.
Take a look here.
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I did it, and it will probably never run again.......LOL
I tore down my Can Bus motor, enough to get to all the wiring,
there is an access on the back of the seat column, all the wiring is hidden there,
I should say, ALL WADDED UP and stuffed in here,
WACF, I can't believe what I saw and found.
I may have found some of my problems, as the seat stem also drops into this area and rest on all the wires.
I found 2 wires that have the plastic coating cut and bare wires are showing,
I WILL fix that.
Also found at least 2 groups of wires that are NOT plug into any plug, just left dangling there.
As to the type/style connector for the motor plug/connection, (8 wires)
and the main wire group to the handles bar's etc,
it is a female type, the Top photo of GR (ABOVE) showing the male end
will fit into the motor plug of my motor.
There is also a small black plastic box sticky taped to the inspection plate,
that has 8 bars? and 4 small metal cans set into a hard epoxy and several wires coming from it. Unknown what it is and I'll attempt to get photo's to add here.
Tia,
Your thought and suggestions.......
Don
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Nvreloader
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the motor end is the female end at the top of the photo.
which has 8 wires going to it.
it has 8 metal bars and 4 small round metal cans,
all of which are set into an epoxy filled box.
It is unknow to me what the other black box is.
At the very top of the photo, you can see the end of the seat tube,
which I may shorten up about 2"+ to keep away from the wires etc.
You can also see one of the unplugged connectors, bottom right,
may be tail light??
Your thoughts and suggestions.......
Don
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Gionnirocket
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Does the bike have 2 batteries?
If so I'd guess the black box is for battery paralleling/distribution
If so I'd guess the black box is for battery paralleling/distribution
Nvreloader
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Hi GR
Yes it does, Dual batteries.
What does the other black box with the 8 metal bars do?
Can both of these black box's be Canbus also?
I also think that the main connection cable is not Canbus,
unless there is a hidden "something/item" that I haven't found yet.
I wish I could find a diagram of all the components for this bike,
it would make a lot easier.............LOL
Thanks,
Your thoughts and suggestions,
Don
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Black box with all the pins would be your dualizer which is not a CANBUS thing whatsoever - just deals with electricity. IF I correctly recall it's hooked up to your bike's charging port, both batteries and the motor and as such will charge both batteries on the bike and control which battery is discharging to the battery.
I also am 99% sure the CANBUS Ultra motor uses a different umbilical (or different plug), a different speed sensor (or at least also a different plug) and a different Gear Shift Sensor. You might have unused plugs there for a headlight and taillight.
I also am 99% sure the CANBUS Ultra motor uses a different umbilical (or different plug), a different speed sensor (or at least also a different plug) and a different Gear Shift Sensor. You might have unused plugs there for a headlight and taillight.
Gionnirocket
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It's hard to tell from the pictures... But I'm pretty sure that the black box's are all battery distribution and nothing to do with CANbus.
The CANbus interface is in the controller which is an integral part of the motor.
Again if you disconnect the display from that end of the harness it will answer the CANbus question
You said that you now have a UART motor. Just looking at the wires coming out of the motor... is anything different from this motor?
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Nvreloader
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Gr
The difference of the Can motor is this,
(wires/plugs connection shape, OUT of the motor),
all the wires are white colored, except the power cables are Red/Black.
The main wire harness (8 wire) is a female white connection,
the (3 wire) is a male coupler, speed sensor,
the (3 wire) is a female coupler, shift sensor,
the (3 wire), is a female Black connection/w white wire, Battery communication,
the 2 wire with the Blue connection is a female, head light,
the 2 wire with the Blue connection is a male, tail light,
and the standard Red/Black colored power cables,
The differences of the Uart motor is this,
(wires/plugs connection shape, OUT of the motor)
all the wires are white colored, except the power cables are Red/Black.
The main wire harness (8 wire) is a male, white connection, main Harness
the (3 wire) is a male, Black connection, Battery communication,
the (3 wire) is a male White connection coupler, speed sensor
the (3 wire) with a white colored connector is a female, shift sensor,
the (2 wire) with blue colored connector is a female, tail light,
the (2 wire) with the blue colored connector is a male, head light
the standard Red/Black colored power cables are both females.
All the wires coming from and going to those black boxes are Power cables?
as they are red/block colored.
Thoughts and suggestions
Tia,
Don
The difference of the Can motor is this,
(wires/plugs connection shape, OUT of the motor),
all the wires are white colored, except the power cables are Red/Black.
The main wire harness (8 wire) is a female white connection,
the (3 wire) is a male coupler, speed sensor,
the (3 wire) is a female coupler, shift sensor,
the (3 wire), is a female Black connection/w white wire, Battery communication,
the 2 wire with the Blue connection is a female, head light,
the 2 wire with the Blue connection is a male, tail light,
and the standard Red/Black colored power cables,
The differences of the Uart motor is this,
(wires/plugs connection shape, OUT of the motor)
all the wires are white colored, except the power cables are Red/Black.
The main wire harness (8 wire) is a male, white connection, main Harness
the (3 wire) is a male, Black connection, Battery communication,
the (3 wire) is a male White connection coupler, speed sensor
the (3 wire) with a white colored connector is a female, shift sensor,
the (2 wire) with blue colored connector is a female, tail light,
the (2 wire) with the blue colored connector is a male, head light
the standard Red/Black colored power cables are both females.
All the wires coming from and going to those black boxes are Power cables?
as they are red/block colored.
Thoughts and suggestions
Tia,
Don
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Gionnirocket
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Well you really can't do anything without the rest of the hardware... So get it together.
Once you do, I would bench test everything before swapping them out on the bike.
Once you do, I would bench test everything before swapping them out on the bike.
Nvreloader
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GR
I am waiting on all the parts to get here, and will bench test everything,
before I strip out the can motor, I just have to find the 4 flat pin battery connections,
and wire them up correctly.
I am correct in thinking that I can assemble everything together, connect battery,
and then test all the functions etc, before installing the new Uart motor?
I guess, I'll have to reuse the can main wire harness, as so far I have NOT found
a dual battery lead main connection harness in several hours of googling etc.
I also plan on regreasing the new Uart motor, before installing it.
Thanks,
Don
I am waiting on all the parts to get here, and will bench test everything,
before I strip out the can motor, I just have to find the 4 flat pin battery connections,
and wire them up correctly.
I am correct in thinking that I can assemble everything together, connect battery,
and then test all the functions etc, before installing the new Uart motor?
I guess, I'll have to reuse the can main wire harness, as so far I have NOT found
a dual battery lead main connection harness in several hours of googling etc.
I also plan on regreasing the new Uart motor, before installing it.
Thanks,
Don
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Can someone direct me to a location, where I may find the 4 bladed battery case
power plugs, that fit the Warthog OEM batteries?
I have to make a bench testing power plug.
Tia,
Don
power plugs, that fit the Warthog OEM batteries?
I have to make a bench testing power plug.
Tia,
Don
tomjasz
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Hailong? Made by ShanShan.
Gionnirocket
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I wouldn't go that far for a bench test.
You could make up a cable with a pair of Male Disconnect to connect to the battery
Or have the bike close with the battery installed and do it with XT60's or Anderson if applicable
Nvreloader
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Tom
Thank you,
those were the plug ends (Hailong), I needed to fit the WH battery's.
By any chance, do you know the name of the 2 black colored boxes,
I found on the WH ?, I posted a photo of them, photo#083105.
I received a reply back from Bikonit,
and they called one of the black box's a Rela?
unknown what or which one that is.
They also told me that I would need the following item for the Uart motor conversion,
1. For the Uart motor, (Uart protocol)
2. Display, (Uart protocol)
3. 1 to 4 wire,? WHAT is this part? Do you mean the main wiring harness?
Will this main wiring harness have the dual battery set up connections?
4. Speed sensor, (Uart protocol)? is this the magnet part on the rear wheel?
5. and a Rela,? (Uart protocol?) = I am NOT SURE what is meant by this item, Relay?
Thanks,
Don
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As an update to the MOTOR SERIAL NUMBER quest/post,
and with limited info posted so far, as to motor, photo's/plug descriptions etc.
Here is one more to add.
My new Uart motor has the following info stamped on the bottom,
The controller section has this info: (pending photo)
CR R10M. 1000. SN. U 1.5 A13F8TC143398 30A 48V
Motor has this info:
MM G510.1000 12 027F3TC180122 48V
QC-01
And some more info on the type of plugs coming from the motor:
There are 4 plugs that are male ends, plug color & wire colors
1. Main harness cable-8pin-White plug/wires-male
2. Battery communication-3 pin-Black plug/white wire-male
3. Speed sensor-3pin-White plug/white wire-male
4. Head/tail light-2pin-Blue plug/white wire-male
The main harness wiring cable will end with a round connector going to the display, and must be a female connector to fit #1 above, for a Uart motor..
There are 4 plugs that are female ends-plug color/wire colors
1. Shift sensor-3 pin-White plug/wire-female
2. Head/tail light-2 pin-Blue plug/white wire-female
3, Battery power-1pin-Red plug/wire-female
4. Battery power-1 pin-Black plug/wire-female
So it may appear to hold true that the info stamped on the bottom of the motor,
can ID which protocol it is and along with the type of plugs coming from the motor.
Your thoughts and suggestions.............
and with limited info posted so far, as to motor, photo's/plug descriptions etc.
Here is one more to add.
My new Uart motor has the following info stamped on the bottom,
The controller section has this info: (pending photo)
CR R10M. 1000. SN. U 1.5 A13F8TC143398 30A 48V
Motor has this info:
MM G510.1000 12 027F3TC180122 48V
QC-01
And some more info on the type of plugs coming from the motor:
There are 4 plugs that are male ends, plug color & wire colors
1. Main harness cable-8pin-White plug/wires-male
2. Battery communication-3 pin-Black plug/white wire-male
3. Speed sensor-3pin-White plug/white wire-male
4. Head/tail light-2pin-Blue plug/white wire-male
The main harness wiring cable will end with a round connector going to the display, and must be a female connector to fit #1 above, for a Uart motor..
There are 4 plugs that are female ends-plug color/wire colors
1. Shift sensor-3 pin-White plug/wire-female
2. Head/tail light-2 pin-Blue plug/white wire-female
3, Battery power-1pin-Red plug/wire-female
4. Battery power-1 pin-Black plug/wire-female
So it may appear to hold true that the info stamped on the bottom of the motor,
can ID which protocol it is and along with the type of plugs coming from the motor.
Your thoughts and suggestions.............
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