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jas

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Hello,
I'm new to e-bikes but learning lots. I would like to find something I could install on my current mountain bike.
It's a Motobecane Fantom Elite.

Is it possible to get a pedal assist and throttle on a do it yourself kit?

Where is the best place to buy a kit?


Here is a link to the exact specs
http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/motobecane/fantom_elite.htm
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Hello,
I'm new to e-bikes but learning lots. I would like to find something I could install on my current mountain bike.
It's a Motobecane Fantom Elite.

Is it possible to get a pedal assist and throttle on a do it yourself kit?

Where is the best place to buy a kit?

Here is a link to the exact specs
http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/motobecane/fantom_elite.htm

Here are some kits.
https://lunacycle.com/mid-drive-kits/
Their forum has lots of info on everything you can think of. https://electricbike.com/forum/

 
How are you using this bike? Are you riding trails, commuting on roads, mix???
This should affect your decision on many factors in converting.
If you plan on lower speed trail riding with steep climbs, then a mid-drive like the Luna kit above is a great choice.
If you are commuting on pavement then a hub motor makes a lot of sense for most people.

Go to Grin Technologies website and click on the learn tab and start reading. http://www.ebikes.ca/
You can order complete kits from Grin as well, although they cater to hub motors and commuter type setups.
Luna is a good choice to look at for mid-drives if you plan on more off road riding.

Lastly, the battery is both the most expensive and the most important part of the conversion. Plan on buying the biggest battery you can reasonably afford. Trying to save a few bucks on the battery will likely leave you disappointed with your bike.
 
I would agree with the above. Are you riding a lot of hills? If so, get a mid drive. If it is mostly flats and you don't mind scrubbing speed on the few hills you do hit then go with a wheel hub motor.

The legal limit for US road/paved path is 750w to be considered a bicycle. Any higher than that and you are legally required to register/insure it. You can get throttle up to 20mph and pedal assist up to 28mph. If you plan on going full speed most of the time, plan on 25-30wh/mile. (500wh pack will get you around 16 miles at full speed depending on weight/hills/pedaling.)

If you let us know your riding type, budget, desired range, etc we can try and help with getting you a more accurate recommendation.
 
Looks like an aluminum frame on that bike. Be aware that you can damage the bottom bracket, or threads in the bottom bracket, over time when using a mid drive kit. The ends of the bb tube can flare out a little. The kit still works fine, but you can't revert it back to a traditional bike again.
 
That's very nice bike. I don't think there are many DIY hub motor kits that do it any justice. I like hub motor kits because they are inexpensive, but the installation does clutter the line of a bike, with extra hardware like a rectangular controller and its tangle of connectors. Installed a few of these, and it takes time to sort out the install.

You can get into those integrated motor/battery/controller all in one unit, but they are insanely expensive, heavy, ugly, and too dependent on bluetooth.

I've been running a mid drive BBS02 on an aluminum frame Diamondback hybrid since 2016. It doesn't use the threads in the frame. It just fits against the two sides of the BB. If someone is flaring the aluminum, maybe they're using a custom wrench with a 3 foot breaker bar. I enjoy the bike. It's very quiet. I like to use my gears and pedal, so the BBS02 has more than enough power for me.

Only complaint might be that I hear that the throttle/pedal assist is not as good as it used to be. On mine, I can apply throttle anytime and it overrides pedal assist smoothly. I believe the new ones, you have to stop pedalling for a bit. Then you can use the throttle. Not good for a trail rider.

Another middrive is the Tongsheng TSDZ2. I'd like to get one, just to have a torque sensing pedal system, but that's not a good reason. Maybe if I had a decent bike like the OP.

A kit bike has the option to run any battery, and over time, I accumulated small ones and big ones, using what I need. I don't have to ride fast or far, so a small one works. While I have a 14AH rack battery on my BBS02 kit, it does come off.

Here, I carried 30AH of spare batteries for my bike and my wife's bikes in the saddlebags. I didn't know how the Colorado grades would affect our range. Turned out they were former rail trails and very mild, although they climbed for miles. Didn't need the spares. My wife's bike, not shown, used a small hub motor. More than enough for this ride.
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Yes you can get pedal assist and throttle both. Several varieties.

Mostly roads, good. Now, how far, how fast, and what's your budget?
20 miles at 20 mph is easy with (or without) minimal pedaling. 40 miles at 40mph is not really do-able in a practical sense. Somewhere in-between will need some careful selection.

Also need amount of load carried, and hills you have to deal with, also rate your pedaling ability.
Describe your current non-motored trips and hill-climbing, for instance. Also how much your fat aunt Sally, who occasionally rides your bike, weighs.

Oh yes, weather conditions for riding and storage, hot, cold, wet, etc.
Overheating is more of a problem in Arizona than Alaska, and in Florida, it rains, a LOT.

Can't get the right tool for the job until you know what the job is.
 
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