Need new battery for 2013 izip E3 Peak

[GuruUno]

Looking as to where the freshest and least cost battery exists. Also here in NJ as to where to get one. And who can rebuild the original one for a spare. Expected costs. Optional increase in configuration like ah etc. is this something to consider or just stay with OEM?
Finally might consider just getting a new 2017 with Bosch motor style newer version of iZip or similar if a shop accepts trade in and offers a decent price.
Sooner than later replies would be greatly appreciated. Existing battery is fine it's just that I'm approaching 2 years 4000 miles and although I've replaced the tires casette and chain I'm wanting to be pro active rather than reactive.

 

[topcatken]

My inclination has been to stay OEM primarily because my local shop and IZIP know exactly what to do when I have a problem. While I could save money possibly buying aftermarket, my success with stock items has encouraged me. I have had battery failures which were replaced by IZip under warranty.

 

[Trail Cruiser]

Looking as to where the freshest and least cost battery exists. Also here in NJ as to where to get one. And who can rebuild the original one for a spare. Expected costs. Optional increase in configuration like ah etc. is this something to consider or just stay with OEM?
Finally might consider just getting a new 2017 with Bosch motor style newer version of iZip or similar if a shop accepts trade in and offers a decent price.
Sooner than later replies would be greatly appreciated. Existing battery is fine it's just that I'm approaching 2 years 4000 miles and although I've replaced the tires casette and chain I'm wanting to be pro active rather than reactive.

I searched all over the internet and it is very hard to get IZIP OEM replacement battery, not until most recently. It is also a proprietary battery with different voltage output at different pins. So those generic batteries won't work. I read somewhere that a guy used a generic battery but the PAS control does not work and the display does not work. For me, to keep my ebike working like new, I had to use OEM battery, and am glad that's what I did. The battery is priced at $599.
http://shockingrides.com/?product=izip-sumo-dash-battery
It is priced more expensively at other sites.
http://www.motostrano.com/Fits-all-iZIP-Yuba-Spicy-Curry-cargo-bikes-iZIP-D-p/ba-bl17-001.htm
Last year There was none available but I was able to negotiate with a store in California to buy the battery from an Izip displayed on the show room. Later, I also purchased a highly discounted Raleigh Tekoa with the same battery. Now, I have 2 ebikes that share the same battery but 3 batteries all in all.

 

[GuruUno]

"not until most recently"
As far as I know, they have been always available, where else recently?
Called Currie (Raleigh now) today, said $589.88 + tax + $50 shipping.
OUCH!
BUT, several bike shops have last years model of E3 Peak for $1250, so do I open almost $700 for a new battery or replace the bike?
Also, at what cost/who can rebuild existing battery for a spare?
One would think that the cost would have come down in all these years....

 

[GuruUno]

"proprietary battery with different voltage output at different pins"
I noticed this while trying to get a readout, and saw the different voltages, which is another thing that has been bugging me.
There is a thread about using a 48v horn on an e-bike.....I can't get any activation of the horn when connecting to the 48v pins.
Last year I posted on this with no replies:

I've read that some have used a 48v electric horn on their 48v e-bikes.
I bought 2 of them, as I was of the belief the 1st one was no good.
The second one I got also did not work.
I take the battery off of my iZip E3 Peak, I take a voltmeter/tester to verify the voltage from the proper pins are correct (one set reads 48v, another reads 36v), and I test the horn by placing one wire on each terminal that shows voltage (the 48v set), and I get zero response from the horn.
Am I missing something?
I make reference to this link that discusses the use and installation, I sent the author an e-mail months ago, zero reply.
(link: http://www.ebikeschool.com/review-a-super-loud-ebike-horn-for-only-3/ )
Anybody have any ideas how/why?
I really, really want this horn.

 

[GuruUno]

Which one of these connectors is in the motor off of the mount for the downtube on the iZip E3 Peak?
I attempted to remove the mount but the wires go deep inside and without removing the side cover access plate on the motor, I will not know.
I only want to remove 1 time, hence asking here 1st.
The battery I need is from AliExpress, anywhere for $250 to $450, 48 to 52v, up to 16Ah....so I may pull the trigger on this.
Any experiences for a similar attempt?

 

[Ann M.]

@GuruUno are you trying to figure out wiring for this battery? If so, you need it to go to the controller first, not directly to the motor. The Izip E3Peak was first produced in 2014 and Currie Tech/Raleigh has some technical information on its old site that may help. I've included a link to page with images of a TransX motor replacement which has a couple of pics with wiring visible that may help.

Also, consider contacting RPE (Rechargeable Power Energy) in Nevada, they specialize in rebuilding ebike batteries along with other lithium power packs. You ship them the battery, they do diagnostics and come back with recommendations and pricing.

 

[GuruUno]

Yes I am and your photo/links are a great help! Thanks.
A little befuddled, a battery has + and -, yet there are 4 wires, one Red, one Black, one small white and one small blue.
If I read the voltages on the pins of the 4 battery terminals, I get 36v and 48v, respectively.
This is only of interest as I also as a side note, have been for over a year trying to figure why I can't power a 48v horn as mentioned in an earlier post.
Just out of curiosity, and idea where the white and blue tie int0?
I'm also going to check out the LV company and inquire of them as to what options they have for replacement rebuilding.
Regardless, any feedback on the items above in the AliExpress photos?
Thanks again.

 

[gadgetguy]

Suggest you read my April 2016 post 'Aftermarket Battery'. I have over 1,000 miles on an aftermarket battery with no problems. It is far superior to the original. Only thing I lost was the battery charge indicator on the display.

 

[GuruUno]

Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately when searching for an April 2016 post with the words "Aftermarket Battery", nothing comes up specific to that reference. Could you provide the exact post for me? Also I see someone had asked about a kickstand, etc. I got a O Trans-X kickstand, worked just OK, looking for a better one, dod you have any luck with any specific brand or model?

 

[gadgetguy]

Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately when searching for an April 2016 post with the words "Aftermarket Battery", nothing comes up specific to that reference. Could you provide the exact post for me? Also I see someone had asked about a kickstand, etc. I got a O Trans-X kickstand, worked just OK, looking for a better one, dod you have any luck with any specific brand or model?

It was posted Nov 28, 2016. I think I purchased my kickstand at REI. I have attached a picture but can't find the brand. Below is part of the thread.

I purchased the 13.5ah Carbon Shark Pack from Luna Cycle. I did not chose the high power option only the long range (+ $40). I also purchased the advanced charger (additional $80). Total cost without tax including shipping was $525. The only modification required was to drill an additional hole in the battery mounting bracket to secure the battery to the bike frame (purchased longer screws). Mounts in the same position as the existing Izip battery, has a smaller profile with no greater weight than the original battery. New battery only has black and red wires which I matched with black and red on bike. Ignored the other two wires which only control the battery charge indicator on the display and the miles to empty. New battery has an led light meter on the top and a usb port. I have a cycle analyst installed which I use to monitor the battery. The new battery is a substantial improvement over the original. It adds new life to the electric motor, lets you use level 3 0r 4 of the assist as you chose and greatly enhances the riding range of the bike. My only regret is that I did not replace the battery sooner!

gadgetguy, Jul 19, 2016

 

[GuruUno]

Yes, that's the same one I got, it's no longer made....(kickstand)