Hmm, -1/2-1/3-1/4 < -1. So in deep snow you will be moving away from your destination?
, a little too pessimistic maybe ?Looking for first ebike (tons of range, throttle, thick tire, no more than 1500 CAD)
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Hmm, -1/2-1/3-1/4 < -1. So in deep snow you will be moving away from your destination?
, a little too pessimistic maybe ?
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When I first sorted kit building the wise ones on endless_sphere suggested 2 miles each rated AH (Amp Hour).
Most sensible riders will laugh given all the variables, but I find with every pack I own that plays out.
no science, no sense, just a crazy old kit builders anecdote.
Most sensible riders will laugh given all the variables, but I find with every pack I own that plays out.
no science, no sense, just a crazy old kit builders anecdote.
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il be safe and say 1.5miles per AH
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The first change to see will probably be back to full price once 2019 stock is sold out, and maybe a bit higher if new features are added.
Too bad the Mini isn't at a bigger discount like the City is. I'm almost convinced to buy a 2nd one to have spare parts and a 2nd battery. But batteries are on sale too... so that's also tempting.
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BTW, are you adding in exchange rate and shipping to the prices you see in US seller lists like for the Revolve? To me it's not a great bike anyway. Easy to just buy a 2nd battery on sale, no need to have a special mounting feature.
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I sometimes forget to do the conversion.
I made an impulse decision and went with he spark mini. It gives me what I want, with no downsides that turn me off. So we'll see how it goes..
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Good choice IMO. I hope you love it. I love my Spark City. I paid more than the sale price, but it was a good decision at the time. I'm still itching to buy the 2nd battery on sale. I've had 55 km with 60% of the 17Ah left...when the weather was good. So I can wait, but I sure would like massive range possibility if I wanted to ride all day and charge overnight on a road trip or even go across the mega city and back...a really long ride!
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Now would be the time to order a couple of hundred $ of locks. I'd check around as much as possible here and online for prices vs protection wrt to a specific strategy you would employ...for example, if you will be locking it at the workplace you could leave a very heavy lock there permanently. Or how you will be using several medium say 10mm chain locks to take when riding elsewhere...how you will carry them on the bike, etc.
Which ones are useless.
Count on never leaving it outside unlocked for even a minute. Taking the battery with you.
Etc etc
Which ones are useless.
Count on never leaving it outside unlocked for even a minute. Taking the battery with you.
Etc etc
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Well I already have a semi-pricey lock for when I need it. My work has a private (and heated) garage, so I dont need to lock it in there (which is where it will mostly be parked). Lets say that 95% of the time its either inside my house or in the private garage. 2.5% of the time will be spent outside in front of grocery stores and stuff, and the other 2.5% will be at occasional outings with friends/coworkers. As you can tell, I dont get out much lol. For now I believe Im good with my lock. Do I really need to take my battery with me? It has a key, so wouldn't that be enough? Whats the point of locking the battery with a shitty lock? Its just a inconvenience for me with no security advantage.
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Do yourself a favor and eliminate that odd chance of someone making a quick snatch. Been there...
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The garage security is better than any lock I could ever buy. Its a small company, nobody here would steal my bike. Plus there are cameras in the garage, theres no way anyone internal would get away with it.
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I hear you! I had a car vandalized in a very similar situation. It was a fluke. It was all on camera. The perps were caught, went to court and had to make restitution. BUT I still had the hassle that simply locking my vehicle in an absolutely safe garage where no one would ever mess with a vehicle... well you get it. These days I try to take whatever simple steps might reduce my chances of a problem. As always YMMV and like choosing the bike, you'll no doubt make the best decision for you! I'm glad you have such a sweet parking situation! Nice!
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Wow thats crazy. But i do think this situation is a little different. There are very expensive cars parked near my little-wee bike. I have a good feeling that most of them are left unlocked (we're Canadians, after all). So i'm guessing that if anything is going to get stolen here, its probably going to be the cars first. But yeah, I mean the security isn't perfect, and I dont know absolutely everyone that works here. But with all that I know about it, it doesn't seem worth mitigating such a small risk. I haven't timed it, but I feel like I spend a good chunk of time locking my bikes in other places. I need to make sure I maximize on lock points (i.e locking the front wheel AND the frame would better than just the frame) and also locking it in such a way that the lock gives very little room for maneuverability (which lowers the chance of it getting broken into).
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Yes, it was parked with the COO, CFO, CEO and other corporate officers cars in a secured section of The Mirage Hotel parking garage. (I was a lowly Director with parking priveledges) A disgruntled employee I had fired trashed the stereo system of the custom car build I was working on and occasionally drove to work. As I said, I got paid back... but it was frustrating nonetheless. Cameras even got pictures of the passengers of the vehicle as it left the public parking structure. People do crazy things. I would have thought that cameras would have been enough to scare them off. But after years of seeing security tapes and what people do even with cameras...well it's just NUTS.
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Well then, as long as I dont fire anyone I should be good! lol..
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You and the endless sphere guys ride quite fast. My bikes, and this is over many different motors and batteries get me
Watching the wattmeter display on my bikes that have them is hard because it changes so fast. Maybe 100-120 watts in PAS 1, and 200-240 watts in PAS 2.
A reviewer over on the Luna site rode his 52V6AH with a middrive (BBS02) powered folder around and around on throttle at 15 mph. He said he was using 250W at that speed, and got 24 miles. About 12 WH/mile.
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Just for the record, I've slowed down every bike and no longer ride over 20MPH. One bike is still capable of 25 but I've been running old saggy batteries with heaters in the cold weather and never get that bike much over 15MPH. But yes, those ES fellas numbers are referring to someone riding at maximum speeds. We get incredible mileage with our BBS01 350W with 36V 12Ah batts. Those are our park bikes and seldom ride over 12-14MPH. My MAC bikes will be running all 36V once the 48 and 52V batteries are done for. Or I may rebuild the packs into large Ah 36V. It depends on how the winter goes.
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My CA3 display gives me watts. If I run by throttle at 20MPH, flat road, 48V battery, and no headwind I use 500-600 watts. Hitting the throttle hard and taking it to make speed with crappy battery about 22MPH the watt meter jumps to 1000-1200W. Featheringbthe throttle and coming back to around 18MPH I can run at 500W indefinitely. I'm really never one to care much about how much I use generally. I have various size batteries and I choose one based on my planned ride. I honestly have little need for anything bigger than 13-14Ah. And now moving back to 36V I've reduced costs by quite a margin.
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My highest recorded power consumption was 2.5 mile/AH at 17 mph on my BBS02 mid drive, throttle only, That's close enough to your number, Tom.
I rechecked my logs. I can go 10 miles on 2Ah most of the time in assist level 1 on my hub motor bikes, Maybe we're pedaling above the assist level. Most endless sphere types disain any pedaling, There was one guy who removed his pedals. Claimed he never used them. He put them back after he had a motor problem and had to push his bike home.
I rechecked my logs. I can go 10 miles on 2Ah most of the time in assist level 1 on my hub motor bikes, Maybe we're pedaling above the assist level. Most endless sphere types disain any pedaling, There was one guy who removed his pedals. Claimed he never used them. He put them back after he had a motor problem and had to push his bike home.
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