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SbSteve

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Hi Folks! I don't have an e-bike yet, but I'm hoping to fix that situation, and that's why I'm here. My current bike is a Trek X-Cal 29er, but I typically don't do much trail riding, mostly just around town on civilized bike paths. I'm looking for a light weight fitness style e-bike that will allow me to do some longer rides without feeling too beat up, and also act as a grocery-getter. I've followed some of the discussions here on these forums and it seems like this is a friendly and helpful community. Looking forward to hanging out here and riding more.
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Welcome aboard! What's your budget?

I'm looking for a light weight fitness style e-bike that will allow me to do some longer rides without feeling too beat up, and also act as a grocery-getter.
Without the grocery part, the Specialized Vado SL 4.0 and 5.0 and the Canyon Grizl line come to mind. Absolutely love my SL 5.0 EQ for recreational riding, including fitness.

However, all of these are expensive ebikes, and the Racktime racks on the Vado SL 4.0 and 5.0 EQ models aren't the best for shopping. (The EQ models basically come with more accessories.)

Hence, I shop on my old hub-drive — in no small part because I'm not willing to let the SL out of my sight.

The latest Vado SL 2 6.0 EQ has more power and torque and a much better rack for shopping, but it weighs a little more and costs as LOT more than the earlier Vado SLs.

Ride1Up has some lightweight ebikes that get a lot of good press and cost a lot less than any of the above. But I think they're mostly sold online.

Which brings me to my best advice: If at all possible, (1) test before you buy, and (2) make SURE that you can get local service on both the mechanical and electrical sides.

Hence, best to buy from a local bike shop (LBS), even if it costs a bit more. Many shops won't service bikes they didn't sell, and some won't service ebikes at all.

I'd start by seeing what local shops have to offer.
 
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Exactly what Jeremy said above. Vado!

My wife and I each have one and love them. We’ve put pannier bags on them and done several overnight trips. They’ve got 1500 miles on them and only lubed the chains. We also did the Solvang Metric Century, 72 miler on them but we did have to do most of the ride in ECO and shut it off a few times in the flats. We finished with 8% battery left.

You cant go wrong with the Specialized Vado.

We ride from Ventura to Carp for lunch at Teddys frequently.
 
Another to consider and ride is the Tero. It is setup with a rack and fenders and can go off road with its air fork. It also comes in the full suspension version, the TeroX. The bar can be swapped for about $27 to a riser that is backswept and it can get comfort grips. It is a do it all bike that is sturdy and worthy.
 
@SbSteve, For your needs I would swap the stock tires for these and go tubeless. The Tero 6.0 will take any hill in SF and the coastal wine country, where I help people with bikes everyday. It is meant to take loads in front and rear and is robust.
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Thanks for the suggestions. The Vado SL models are on my list. I hadn't heard of the Canyon Grizl. That looks nice. I'm also considering the Trek FX+ 7s.
Hi Steve,
A Vado SL with the 1.1 motor would probably be a nice choice provided you can still buy it locally. Nowadays, Specialized went to promote the Vado SL 2 6.0 Carbon, which (while being an interesting e-bike) is different from we have got used to. It is beefier than the SL 1.1 and has a more powerful motor, shifting it more into the commuter than fitness category. A Trek FX+ 7 could be an option.

Talking about Canyon Grizl:ONfly, please think twice. It is a drop bar gravel e-bike, which is not the obvious choice as a general e-bike. Additionally, Canyon bikes have strange sizing, usually requiring a smaller frame size than you would expect. Unless you can try a Canyon at a dealership, it is a tricky choice. If you are into drop-bar gravel e-bikes, a Specialized Creo 2 could be a better choice (the e-bike can be demo ridden at a Specialized dealership).

(The last thing, which is a general remark: Do not listen to PedalUma, whose advices to upgrade an already perfect e-bike are just ridiculous. He is even unaware Specialized is one of the manufacturers of premium bike tyres...)
 
@SbSteve I saw in your other thread that you hope to get an ebike light enough to load into your pickup truck. That's what I've been doing for more than a decade with couple of Thule Insta-gater racks. I ride a lot of trails, no jumps, but some single track, flat gravel rail trails, paved MUPs and fire roads/double tracks. I also commuted on a gravel rail trail. And I like to travel to trails in surrounding states.

Getting the bike on and off the truck is really important to me. I drive a F150 4x4, the bed is maybe 38" off the ground. I am 6'-2", though likely shrank a bit at my age. I really like a 29'er hardtail eMTB. 29'er gives you a lot of options for tires and accessories. Similar to a 700c hybrid/fitness bike, but the frames, racks and rims of a 29er are a little larger and more robust.

I spent a lot of time, since September '24, looking at the Turbo Tero line. The Tero X full suspension, fenders and lights command attention from buyers. On my older 29er eMTB I used a pannier rack and a SKS clip on front fender that works great. Fixed fenders do not work with a lot of carrier racks, they don't work with my Thule racks. Rear suspension also adds weight. I've ridden with a Kinekt Body Float seat-tube suspension since 2015. Cain Creek before that. Since I'm not hitting jumps or bombing downhill in a rock garden, I don't need the rear suspension and therefore I don't have to pick up the extra 10 pounds of a full suspension to load the bike in my truck.

I'm not suggesting what I've done or do will work for you. And I only offer my personal experience as a reference, not a suggestion on what to buy. I purchased a new ebike recently and I really had to think about how I ride, and every aspect of living with a bike. I purchased a Turbo Tero 5.0. I haven't lived with it long, but it's a familiar platform to me. The 5.0 has the full power 2.2 motor (90 Nm torque) and 710 Wh Battery, and is lighter than the X4, with its smaller battery and lower power motor. Long rides in the mountains of Pennsylvania were a factor for me. All eMTB will be heavier than a fitness/hybrid though. Some really nice bikes listed in this thread.

It's a lot to think about. I always say buy a bike that fits how you want to use it the most. I see people buy folding bikes and never fold it. And one may not want a drop bar road bike to haul groceries. I don't think you can go wrong with Trek and Specialized. There's a lot of instability in the US market these days. A lot of brands have left the US market, but both Trek and Specialized are US companies. Specialized has a lot of facilities in Europe as well.

Best of luck in your search.
 
Talking about Canyon Grizl:ONfly, please think twice. It is a drop bar gravel e-bike, which is not the obvious choice as a general e-bike. Additionally, Canyon bikes have strange sizing, usually requiring a smaller frame size than you would expect. Unless you can try a Canyon at a dealership, it is a tricky choice. If you are into drop-bar gravel e-bikes, a Specialized Creo 2 could be a better choice (the e-bike can be demo ridden at a Specialized dealership).
Hi Stefan,
Thanks for the comments.

I assumed I would want a large frame, but after following the steps on Canyon's website and taking measurements, the website suggested a medium frame. I guess I do need to decide about the bars. I'm used to flat bar bikes. Maybe I'll test ride a Creo 2 to test those drop bars.
 
@SbSteve I saw in your other thread that you hope to get an ebike light enough to load into your pickup truck. That's what I've been doing for more than a decade with couple of Thule Insta-gater racks. I ride a lot of trails, no jumps, but some single track, flat gravel rail trails, paved MUPs and fire roads/double tracks. I also commuted on a gravel rail trail. And I like to travel to trails in surrounding states.
That rack looks like a great solution to carrying a bike in the back of a truck.
It's a lot to think about. I always say buy a bike that fits how you want to use it the most. I see people buy folding bikes and never fold it. And one may not want a drop bar road bike to haul groceries. I don't think you can go wrong with Trek and Specialized. There's a lot of instability in the US market these days. A lot of brands have left the US market, but both Trek and Specialized are US companies. Specialized has a lot of facilities in Europe as well.

Best of luck in your search.
Thanks for sharing your perspective and experience. Very helpful.
 
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