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Stefan Mikes

Stefan Mikes

Gravel e-biker
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Europe
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Mazovia, PL
It is funny to watch the Forum activities of Members worldwide. It is an early afternoon for me in Central Europe, even earlier in the UK. America's East Coast must be awake now. The West Coast & BC are still asleep. Australia is going to bed while NZ is just asleep :)

Anybody sharing similar thoughts?
 
My sleep pattern is as strange as Dallant's :) The baddest time is my morning, when I can only count on Europeans, Australian/New Zealanders, and occasional South African and a couple of American/Canadian who don't sleep at night...
 
Isn't that the time the most of Americas is active, and the Pacific enjoys its morning? :)
 
Stefan Mikes said:
My sleep pattern is as strange as Dallant's :) The baddest time is my morning, when I can only count on Europeans, Australian/New Zealanders, and occasional South African and a couple of American/Canadian who don't sleep at night...
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Sooo, you're hoping more interesting people finally wake up? Just kidding.....
 
Stefan Mikes said:
Isn't that the time the most of Americas is active, and the Pacific enjoys its morning? :)
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I've also seen a pattern with the posts, but then again there should be as we all need to sleep some time or other.

The day change also gets involved. It's currenty 5:16PM here in California , Wednesday evening before our Thanksgiving national holiday;

Warsaw, Poland is 9 hours ahead of San Francisco, CA
2:16 AMThursday, in Warsaw, Poland is
5:16 PM Wednesday, in San Francisco, CA

So, it's very early Thursday morning in Poland. @Stefan Mikes will be rising soon enough as I throw the last log on the fire for the night.

Sleep well, all...😎
 
I don't like Arnold very much, but he is spot on here. The music was shmaltzy, and the analogy of the tempered sword was macho, but that is to be expected from the Governator, but I agree with his words. I hope more decent Republicans will find their spines and speak up and either retake their party or start a new one.

My husband (a non-Cheeto Republican) and I were discussing the latest events. It is easy to dismiss the mob as stupid, ignorant, manipulated lumpen, or possibly brainwashed individuals who fell too far down the rabbit hole of YouTube conspiracy vidéos. They may be all of the above, but why are they susceptible to such obvious hogwash? And why do they cling to laughably nonsensical claims despite proof to the contrary?

My theory is we have a society full of lonely isolated people who are looking to belong to something bigger. The family structure in America is very weak. We don't usually have a strong extended family to provide belonging and moral boundaries. Our capitalist and pioneer history has prioritized going where the jobs are, leaving one's home locale. I'm not saying that is a bad or unnecessary thing - - only that it geographically disperses and therefore weakens families. We have a culture that prioritizes welfare of the individual over the welfare of the community.

We also have had for a decade at least, a media culture that glorifies superheroes on the one hand, and grievances on the other. So I think a lot of those isolated people, looking for a bigger idea to belong to, wanting to be the hero of their own movie, having fallen down the rabbit hole of internet conspiracy videos, are ripe to be manipulated and exploited. Cheeto happens to be the particular cult they have fallen for. It's pathetic.

That said, I do not forgive a single person who voted for him after the Access Hollywood tape came out, nor anyone who voted for him after 4 years of unending incompetence and lies and meanness, and though I am trying to figure out the why of these insurrectionists, I would have had no problem if there had been a whole lot more of them shot on Wednesday. (I'm clearly an American...)
 
Stefan Mikes said:
Someone has called the current era "Digital Middle Ages"...
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Interesting. I just watched a program on the History Channel on the 'Dark Ages'. Probably a misnomer and the History Channel at least gives 'some' attention to this. The Middle Ages was a time when the Dark Age was passing and enlightenment was dawning. Of course the different factions were killing each other wholesale by then. We probably ARE in the digital Middle Ages.
 
ChezCheese:) said:
I don't like Arnold very much, but he is spot on here. The music was shmaltzy, and the analogy of the tempered sword was macho, but that is to be expected from the Governator, but I agree with his words. I hope more decent Republicans will find their spines and speak up and either retake their party or start a new one.

My husband (a non-Cheeto Republican) and I were discussing the latest events. It is easy to dismiss the mob as stupid, ignorant, manipulated lumpen, or possibly brainwashed individuals who fell too far down the rabbit hole of YouTube conspiracy vidéos. They may be all of the above, but why are they susceptible to such obvious hogwash? And why do they cling to laughably nonsensical claims despite proof to the contrary?

My theory is we have a society full of lonely isolated people who are looking to belong to something bigger. The family structure in America is very weak. We don't usually have a strong extended family to provide belonging and moral boundaries. Our capitalist and pioneer history has prioritized going where the jobs are, leaving one's home locale. I'm not saying that is a bad or unnecessary thing - - only that it geographically disperses and therefore weakens families. We have a culture that prioritizes welfare of the individual over the welfare of the community.

We also have had for a decade at least, a media culture that glorifies superheroes on the one hand, and grievances on the other. So I think a lot of those isolated people, looking for a bigger idea to belong to, wanting to be the hero of their own movie, having fallen down the rabbit hole of internet conspiracy videos, are ripe to be manipulated and exploited. Cheeto happens to be the particular cult they have fallen for. It's pathetic.

That said, I do not forgive a single person who voted for him after the Access Hollywood tape came out, nor anyone who voted for him after 4 years of unending incompetence and lies and meanness, and though I am trying to figure out the why of these insurrectionists, I would have had no problem if there had been a whole lot more of them shot on Wednesday. (I'm clearly an American...)
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I’d love to agree with the bolded part but can’t. My opinion is that most are not lonely individuals as I know many families who actually have Trumpty as their hero. This is, in large part, because he’s wealthy and, in their eyes, successful. He is also agrees with their white supremacy views. They’ve also spent the last decade watching Faux News exclusively and thus, have never heard Trumpty have to answer any real questions.
Hillary was forced into 8 separate Republican hearings UNDER OATH about Benghazi. Trump, his minions, and children have never had to answer questions under oath and when the odd one or two did and lied, Trump pardoned them. So they view Trump as some sort of savior whose minions deserve and get forgiveness because they are loyal to their ‘master’.
 
As I mentioned in an earlier post Eric Hoffer’s (1951) ‘True Believer’ explains the attractions of these “movements” and how susceptibility can transfer as we see with the ‘White Evangelical’ attachment to Trump.
The mob has gradations from casual to deadly serious. At its core there were serious organized-with-a-purpose paramilitary. There will need to be a serious, comprehensive investigation. This was sedition at the highest level. The fact so many cops seemed involved is unsettling.
 
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