Giant road E pro

[jabberwocky]

I’ll check tomorrow and let you know. My dealer did say that compatibility varies and they needed to check my serial to get the correct one. So my model number may not help if your revolt is a different region.

Sorry your dealer isn’t being helpful. My local (Maverick bikes in leesburg va) has always been super helpful. I sent the owner this thread and described what I wanted to do and she checked with Giant, ordered the compatible unit and had it in for me in a week or two.

 

[tooballde]

Thanks for helping I'll get the s/n ; gaea24233 & model# BIEBGNT0020 to another dealer . I live somewhat equal distant from a couple other dealers(50 mi.) that I've done business with. I can check with them. The evo I have does basic drive assisting well but I'd seems redundant to use Edge 830 and the inaccurate evo. Too cluttered and I like the minimalist RC 1 on the Trance.
Thanks again

 

[jabberwocky]

I swapped RC1 with EVO...

The Evo is nice enough if you don't ride with a GPS or anything, but if (like me) you always have a Garmin along it mostly just takes up space on the bars. I never used it for anything other than battery percentage and assist level.

My Edge 530 is much better at providing any data I care to know than the Evo. It also syncs with the Shimano system on my EMTB as well, so I get a nice standard readout. I use it on my non-electric bikes as well.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

The Evo is nice enough if you don't ride with a GPS or anything, but if (like me) you always have a Garmin along it mostly just takes up space on the bars. I never used it for anything other than battery percentage and assist level.

My Edge 530 is much better at providing any data I care to know than the Evo. It also syncs with the Shimano system on my EMTB as well, so I get a nice standard readout. I use it on my non-electric bikes as well.

I cannot live without an operable speedometer, battery % readout, distance ridden -- all seen at a glance. Although I always ride with a smartphone on the bars, the RC1 app is laughable, and I cannot ride with a smartphone always on...

 

[jabberwocky]

I cannot live without an operable speedometer, battery % readout, distance ridden -- all seen at a glance. Although I always ride with a smartphone on the bars, the RC1 app is laughable, and I cannot ride with a smartphone always on...

Garmin edge does provide all that stuff (and more; any metric you care to have can be setup). I do think Giant has the right idea with the Evo, since lots of ebike buyers aren't people who are already riding with garmin/wahoo/etc devices, so having a built in device to provide important info seems like a logical thing. I am glad theres a more minimal option available though. I've long been a fan of the minimal e7000 display my YT Decoy uses. The Evo does have a lot of wasted potential IMO. I'm personally wondering who the first ebike oem will be to setup a partnership with one of the GPS/fitness metric companies (Garmin or Wahoo). Seems like a natural synergy. An Evo-like unit with GPS and ANT baked in, running something Garmin-like would be a huge sell for me.

I'll note that my wifes 2021 Thrive has the new screen which seems nicer, and seems to have an actual Ridecontrol One as the controller for the screen that I wonder if it might work standalone.

I've tried phone on the bars a few times over the years, but its awkward to use while moving and battery sucks if you're running GPS and have the screen on all the time. A garmin edge goes 12+hours navigating and providing info the whole time. Plus I've broken enough edge mounts in crashes to not want my expensive phone on the bars, at least on any of my mountainbikes.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

Garmin edge does provide all that stuff (and more; any metric you care to have can be setup). I do think Giant has the right idea with the Evo, since lots of ebike buyers aren't people who are already riding with garmin/wahoo/etc devices, so having a built in device to provide important info seems like a logical thing. I am glad theres a more minimal option available though. I've long been a fan of the minimal e7000 display my YT Decoy uses. The Evo does have a lot of wasted potential IMO. I'm personally wondering who the first ebike oem will be to setup a partnership with one of the GPS/fitness metric companies (Garmin or Wahoo). Seems like a natural synergy. An Evo-like unit with GPS and ANT baked in, running something Garmin-like would be a huge sell for me.

I'll note that my wifes 2021 Thrive has the new screen which seems nicer, and seems to have an actual Ridecontrol One as the controller for the screen that I wonder if it might work standalone.

I've tried phone on the bars a few times over the years, but its awkward to use while moving and battery sucks if you're running GPS and have the screen on all the time. A garmin edge goes 12+hours navigating and providing info the whole time. Plus I've broken enough edge mounts in crashes to not want my expensive phone on the bars, at least on any of my mountainbikes.

Jabeer: Please explain that very slowly to me again.
Assuming it is Ride Control One installed on a Giant e-bike. Can you get all of these parameters on Garmin while you're riding:

• Actual speed
• Battery %
• Distance ridden
• Time ridden
• Cadence?

 

[jabberwocky]

Jabeer: Please explain that very slowly to me again.
Assuming it is Ride Control One installed on a Giant e-bike. Can you get all of these parameters on Garmin while you're riding:

• Actual speed
• Battery %
• Distance ridden
• Time ridden
• Cadence?

Yes to all. Not sure if Giant sends cadence over ANT+ that Garmin can read, but you could use a cadence sensor (like you would on a non-e bike) to get that if you want it. My ebike profile displays current speed, average speed, elapsed ride time, distance, heart rate (read from a wahoo armband), assist mode and ebike battery percentage, time of day and a few other things. There are tons of other things it could display if you want, its very customizable. The Ridecontrol one sends info over ANT+ (which is a common wireless format for fitness stuff) and the Garmin treats it as just another sensor.

Here is a list of potential data fields on the edge 530:

Edge 530 Owner's Manual - Data Fields

www8.garmin.com

You can setup activity profiles and have different data fields for each one. For instance, I have an ebike one I use with my Revolt, an EMTB one I use with my Decoy, a mountainbike one I use with my non-e mtb, and a general ride one I use with my road/gravel bikes.

Strangely, the Evo doesn't have ANT+ baked in. I suspect the updated one on my wifes Thrive does, but haven't checked.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

Yes to all. Not sure if Giant sends cadence over ANT+ that Garmin can read, but you could use a cadence sensor (like you would on a non-e bike) to get that if you want it. My ebike profile displays current speed, average speed, elapsed ride time, distance, heart rate (read from a wahoo armband), assist mode and ebike battery percentage, time of day and a few other things. There are tons of other things it could display if you want, its very customizable. The Ridecontrol one sends info over ANT+ (which is a common wireless format for fitness stuff) and the Garmin treats it as just another sensor.

Here is a list of potential data fields on the edge 530:

Edge 530 Owner's Manual - Data Fields

www8.garmin.com

You can setup activity profiles and have different data fields for each one. For instance, I have an ebike one I use with my Revolt, an EMTB one I use with my Decoy, a mountainbike one I use with my non-e mtb, and a general ride one I use with my road/gravel bikes.

Strangely, the Evo doesn't have ANT+ baked in. I suspect the updated one on my wifes Thrive does, but haven't checked.

Very interesting indeed! If I knew that in May last year, I might have gone your way. Currently I use EVO because it gives me the ride essentials at a glance in big type, and I use smartphone for many other things (but the Ride Control App is useless to me). In winter time, I am clad with clothes and gloves, so the smartwatch would be hard to observe.

I will probably never go the Garmin way, especially as I use Polar OH-1 armband for HR and it does what I need for my Vado.

 

[jabberwocky]

Very interesting indeed! If I knew that in May last year, I might have gone your way. Currently I use EVO because it gives me the ride essentials at a glance in big type, and I use smartphone for many other things (but the Ride Control App is useless to me). In winter time, I am clad with clothes and gloves, so the smartwatch would be hard to observe.

I will probably never go the Garmin way, especially as I use Polar OH-1 armband for HR and it does what I need for my Vado.

FWIW, the Polar does ANT+ as well which the Garmin would happily read. ANT+ it basically the fitness worlds bluetooth, almost all sensors aimed at the fitness world support it. And the Edge is not a watch, its a standalone unit that mounts on the handlebars. I have mine mounted on an out-front mount on most of my bikes.

Not trying to sell you on it. I've used Edge devices since Garmin had the 305 (circa 2007 or so). I ride a lot of bikes so having one device that works with everything is nice.

Old pic where you can kinda see it here (its peeking up in front of the Evo; I don't have a pic of the bars after doing the RC1 swap):

 

[Stefan Mikes]

OK, Jabber. Looks as if I made not the best choice Thank you for the useful information!!!

 

[Stefan Mikes]

My Fenix 5X Plus and Edge 530 both pick up the cadence from my Creo.

Oh yes, the Specialized TCU is very good and properly advertised. I didn't know Giant Ride Control One had similar capabilities because all Giant is telling you is "use your smartphone and Ride Control App".