Frey CC

[onlineaddy]

But I have yet to find a meaningful comparison or someone with real world experience that can speak to the difference between a tweaked stock controller and the X1.

Are you asking for other experiences because you don't wish to take the manufacturer's claims at face value? That's certainly fine. But, otherwise, you can find plenty of data points below:

A revolution in riding! Archon X1 controller Arriving May 2020.

We are happy to announce that we are now the exclusive North American distributor of the Archon X1 controller for the Bafang Ultra drives. This completely changes the landscape for powerful mid drives, and brings the riding experience on par with the top mid drive motors in the world. Don't...

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[Taylor57]

CC on display Pal Desert Civic Center. The boy Slimed the tires and lubed the pedals

 

[Gionnirocket]

CC on display Pal Desert Civic Center. The boy Slimed the tires and lubed the pedals

About time!
Now go put some miles on'er!

 

[Taylor57]

I may switch to pickleball!

 

[Gionnirocket]

I may switch to pickleball!

That sounds like Nurse Ratchet talking

 

[Gionnirocket]

CC on display Pal Desert Civic Center. The boy Slimed the tires and lubed the pedals

So how do you find the weight of the bike?

 

[Taylor57]

So how do you find the weight of the bike?

I just got back in town and still haven't ridden. It's at my sons house. I may have him weigh it later today. I should get it back this Thursday...

 

[Gionnirocket]

I just got back in town and still haven't ridden. It's at my sons house. I may have him weigh it later today. I should get it back this Thursday...

No... I was referring to the feel of the weight when you have to handle it and then when riding. Does it feel too heavy?

 

[Taylor57]

No... I was referring to the feel of the weight when you have to handle it and then when riding. Does it feel too heavy?

Hi Rocket. I plan on riding it later in the week. I will give a full report with some more pics.

 

[TomD]

It's a weighty bike but IMO the weight makes it that much more stable at speed, so it's a tradeoff that works for my use (city, gravel, light off road). YMMV.

 

[LGMTL]

For those who want an affordable hitch rack for your ebike. I found this type of platform rack used for motorcross/cycle style but perfect for ebikes. Bought it used for $130 plus a couple or ratchet straps is all that's needed. I have a 1 1/4" hitch so I had to customize to fit but rack is made for 2" hitch. Also removed the ramp to reduce weight and size, you need to add a piece of wood or something to reduce the wheel area width to suit your tire size. Only drawback is for 1 ebike only.

 

[Taylor57]

Took my real first ride on the CC today. About 10 miles or so on the streets and bike paths with a little trail riding as well. She handled like a dream and shifted very well through all 11 or 12 gears. Checked out all 5 levels of pedal assist and was able to get her up to 38 mph throttle only. Probably wont be doing that speed too often as I just wanted to see what she would do. I may switch out my suspension stem from my Sport and I am still up in the air as whether or not to keep the dropper or add a suspension seat post. All in all a very smooth ride and yes, I'm guessing every bit of 75 lbs...

 

[Taylor57]

Took CC out this morning for about an hour and fooled and fiddled with controls- I had never used Turbo before. Oh boy, plenty of extra giddy up there as I was able to pedal to 30 pretty easily is PA 5. I then went to the other end of the spectrum and put her in 0 PA and was able to comfortably pedal at around 15mph for a mile or so. (I'm guessing I was in gear 8 out of 11) It is heavy but it sure rides smooth. I also noticed by using Turbo and the throttle quite a bit, the power level went from 88 starting the day to 78 in around 30 minutes. Once I got out of Turbo and especially when I shut off power assist, my mileage got back to a more reasonable drain. Next project is finding the leather covered locking grips that will match my seat so I can add the Mirrcycle. I'm also wrestling with dismantling my dropper post as I haven't used it yet and feel I would benefit more from a suspension seat post and my old suspension stem from Sport. Not sure how it would handle in a soft dirt trail situation especially with the Schwalbes...

 

[Gionnirocket]

Almost took as long for you to go for a ride as it did for Frey to ship it
Seems you are happy with it so far.
Curious... Have you tried to pedal the bike under total human power... sans motor?

 

[Taylor57]

Almost took as long for you to go for a ride as it did for Frey to ship it
Seems you are happy with it so far.
Curious... Have you tried to pedal the bike under total human power... sans motor?

Yeah, Rocket, I tried today and surprisingly, it was fairly easy to pedal and I was even going uphill at around a 1% grade. Rode for close to a mile with no motor support. And, I was in a higher gear. At the end of my ride, I was a tad winded but it felt good. It reminded me of why I bought Ebikes in the first place-too get off of my fat arse!!

 

[Martyn]

No, best solution is to upgrade the controller to achieve 15-35% more range. With aftermarket controller, my butt wears out before the CC battery does. YMMV depending on how much you pedal.

Hi Tom excuse my ignorance but how do I upgrade my controller to achieve greater efficiency?I ordered my cc just over a couple of weeks ago .Do I contact Frey to upgrade or is it something I have to do once I get the bike?This will be my first ebike so I am a complete novice with technicalities.

 

[onlineaddy]

Hi Tom excuse my ignorance but how do I upgrade my controller to achieve greater efficiency?I ordered my cc just over a couple of weeks ago .Do I contact Frey to upgrade or is it something I have to do once I get the bike?This will be my first ebike so I am a complete novice with technicalities.

Archon X1 controller from Watt Wagons:

Archon X1 controller-only upgrade for your Bafang Ultra

We are excited to offer Archon X1 controller-only upgrades for your own Bafang Ultra! After proving out the controller, and a lot of testing, we feel comfortable that this controller can be adopted across a vast majority of the Bafang Ultra bikes out there. Please read the entire description...

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[ElevenAD]

Took my real first ride on the CC today. About 10 miles or so on the streets and bike paths with a little trail riding as well. She handled like a dream and shifted very well through all 11 or 12 gears. Checked out all 5 levels of pedal assist and was able to get her up to 38 mph throttle only. Probably wont be doing that speed too often as I just wanted to see what she would do. I may switch out my suspension stem from my Sport and I am still up in the air as whether or not to keep the dropper or add a suspension seat post. All in all a very smooth ride and yes, I'm guessing every bit of 75 lbs...

good lord that bike is a rocket! and beautiful on top of that!!!

 

[Dave Thefonziscool]

It's a weighty bike but IMO the weight makes it that much more stable at speed, so it's a tradeoff that works for my use (city, gravel, light off road). YMMV.

Hi, thanks for your input on the X 1 earlier today. I am looking for an exclusively off road bike. Do you have any interest in selling your luna X 1? (I believe we're both in the PacNW ?)
Thanks!

 

[TomD]

The Luna X1 still meets my needs so not planning to sell but you can drop by if you want to test ride (I'm in Issaquah). Just drop me a direct mesage.