Fazua in the USA

Believe it or not, my cycling club, despite my concrete arguments against it, has decided to ban class 3 pedelecs (Trek Domane +) because they go 28 mph, not 20.
There are Class 1 road bikes out there with big batteries. Yamaha makes one.
 
Are there any more manufacturers coming out with lightweight e-bikes? Is Bianchi going to expand their line from one bike to several others? I've heard rumors that Specialized is coming out with one, maybe by the end of the year, but it is just a rumor. Anyone else see anything at demo events, shows or marketing to bike shops? Still thinking of getting an Orbea, but want to see what else will be out there.
 
And the Cannondale Quick Neo is 40 lbs.

I test rode the Cannondale Synapse Neo SE (their all road version) and loved it so I bought one. It uses the less aggressive Bosch Active Line Plus motor coupled with a Bisch Powertube 500wh battery. This past Saturday I did a 35 mile ride with 2, 444 feet of climb and finished with approximately 60 miles of battery left! I was thrilled. Check them out!
 
I test rode the Cannondale Synapse Neo SE (their all road version) and loved it so I bought one. It uses the less aggressive Bosch Active Line Plus motor coupled with a Bisch Powertube 500wh battery. This past Saturday I did a 35 mile ride with 2, 444 feet of climb and finished with approximately 60 miles of battery left! I was thrilled. Check them out!

The quoted weight on the bike is 38 pounds but riding the bike youo do not feel the weight. When you turn, you have to be a little more deliberate with your lean for a while, but you quickly get used to it. It also takes a little while to get used to the wider Q factor, but that was not an issue either.
Are there any more manufacturers coming out with lightweight e-bikes? Is Bianchi going to expand their line from one bike to several others? I've heard rumors that Specialized is coming out with one, maybe by the end of the year, but it is just a rumor. Anyone else see anything at demo events, shows or marketing to bike shops? Still thinking of getting an Orbea, but want to see what else will be out there.

For Ebikemotion - rear hub motor and battery in the down tube - used by Orbea, Bianchi, Willier, Colnago and Pinarello. The Bianchi is reasonably priced but has a low head tube, as is commonly found with Bianchi. The Orbea is a more upright position, but there are issues, right now, with accessories. The other three are quite expensive. If I were going this route, I would probably wait for the Fazua drive bikes coming this fall and winter, since they have a removeable battery and you can carry a spare.
 
I just spoke with Glory Cycles in Greenville, SC USA, they indicated that the Gain water bottle external battery is ready to be released at a list price of $1,000 - No thanks to that!
 
I just spoke with Glory Cycles in Greenville, SC USA, they indicated that the Gain water bottle external battery is ready to be released at a list price of $1,000 - No thanks to that!

Amen. Fortunately, I don't need one? I'm getting approximately 130 Miles on a single charge.
 
I'll probably get one, hopefully with a discount. Since I saved ~$800 by getting Shimano 105 vs. Ultegra, that will pay for most of the battery.
 
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I'll probably get one, hopefully with a discount. Since I saved ~$800 by getting Shimano 105 vs. Ultegra, that will pay for most of the battery.

Bloody good 105, I have Di2, rode pals bike the other day with 105 set-up. Very impressed and, great price.
 
130 miles I'd great! What kind of terrain, mode you were in and your weight if you dont mind?[/QUOTE

OK, last charge over 4 rides. 3 moderately rolling, one ride of 25 miles mostly flat, total distance 134 miles. However all rides where done with a strong east wind blowing. All rides done in eco (have not yet used the two other modes) I'm 66 years young 11 stone 2 pounds max HR of 148bpm. Have recovered from heart attack and kidney transplant (have also lost a great deal of core strength that isn't ever coming back) Mainly nowadays I ride on muscle memory and experience. I have in my racing days done times under 55 mins for 25 miles (blue ribbon event here in UK) I'm riding Obrea Gain M20i with Cosmic Carbon Wheels shod with Hutchison Fusion 25mm tyres. I can average 17/18 mph under my own effort, but climbing brings me to a stop. Average speed for all rides is around 14.8mph, so you can see the motor is drawing power a decent amount of time. Must say for me I find the Gain ideal. Under my snooker table I have laying a £12,000 Storck that is under UCI regulations for racing weight. Maybe because of the extra weight? I don't know? But I find the Gain even more comfortable. The Storck is supposed to be the last word in Carbon frame building. I love the Gain so much, ordering the D version for winter riding with full mudguards fitted. Any more info required? Just shout.
 
No problem. Didn't think you were. I'm sure there are qualities where one would prefer one over the other, depending upon their needs. I'm waiting for the battery too so I can ride a century with it without running out of power. Mostly I'm riding in L1 mode with limited use of L2, so running out of juice isn't a problem with most of the riding I'm doing.

Have you considered other bikes with 500 Wh batteries?

Funny you should ask. I ended up buying a Cannondale Synapse Neo SE. Great bike with limitless range but it constantly creaks. After six attempts to get it to stop, I returned it to the dealer and they are working with Cannondale for a resolution. I think I may join you with a Gain now that the battery is out. Much lighter, range extender battery, solid company behind them.

Anyone considering the Specialized Creo at a base price of $9K? Looks great but $9K????
 
Sorry for the huge delay. I appreciate the info you provided. See my note today to MikeDee. Hope you are still enjoying the Gain and best of luck and health!
 
I have a Trek Domane+ which I love but did notice today that my dealer has the new Cube Agree with the Fazua motor on the floor. It's the top of the line model for 10K but looked very nice. I for one typically ride my Domane+ at 30-60% assist (and turned off on the flats) but would not give up the ability to move at 28 mph through city streets on my way home after a long climb up the mountain--it's too much fun!
 
I have a Trek Domane+ which I love but did notice today that my dealer has the new Cube Agree with the Fazua motor on the floor. It's the top of the line model for 10K but looked very nice. I for one typically ride my Domane+ at 30-60% assist (and turned off on the flats) but would not give up the ability to move at 28 mph through city streets on my way home after a long climb up the mountain--it's too much fun!

The 2020 Trek Domane+ bikes will come in two very different flavors. One with a Bosch motor good for 28mph and one with the Fazua motor, good for 20mph. The Fazua model looks a lot more streamlined but has less range and less top end. Things are heating up in the e-bike wars! Mid-drives, Ebikemotion or Fazua???!!!!
 
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