EMBT RAMBLAS? Thoughts?

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This looks like a very interesting bike, especially since there are dealers that can support this. It seems like a lot of bike for the money but the proprietary mid Drive motor is a little bit worrisome. There is a two-year warranty, which makes us seem like a very good possibility, but hopefully people will weigh in that have had Service from the dealers locally and can shed some light.
 
It's got good specs. They should've gone with a rear suspension though.
 
You tube reviews from serious MTB sites have been very positive on this bike. They seem to be very impressed with the motor, the front fork, the drivetrain, the brakes and the overall geometry of the bike. I have seen people ride the living shoot out of this bike, huge jumps, gnarley rocks, it seems to actually be very impressive for the price, and very capable. And for the person who said it needs a throttle, mountain bikes don't have throttles, son.
 
The motor reliability will be key. I have noticed the dealer network they advertise isn’t near as big as I thought. The first two dealers that I called had never heard of it.
 
I've watched a few reviews of this ebike, hoping that it was a possible purchase. But the motor seems to Whine - louder than I've heard any other motor whine. I had to write it off for that reason alone. It may be after a few generations, this issue could be resolved. And at that point, we'll have data on reliability also.
 
I test rode a Ramblas today on the street, but with a fair amount of climbs. It rode very well, although I agree I'd prefer to have a rear suspension. However, I've done plenty of mountain bike riding in the past with a hard tail. I'm 5'8", but long waisted (30 in inseam), and both the medium and large size fit me pretty well so I'd probably go with a large since I felt a bit too upright on the medium (although a handlebar extender could be added).

I currently have a Specialized Turbo Levo and the SRAM brakes (four piston) and shifter (12 speed) on the Ramblas are just one grade below the Levo and feel very similar, although the shifting was a bit clunkier on the Ramblas (maybe because it's a new bike). Strangely, the Ramblas motor (rated at 100Nm vs 90Nm for the Levo) seemed a bit weaker when climbing but the three assist settings are fully programmable and I think the Ramblas default is at 80nm (based what I think I saw on the review here) instead of 100nm although I could not confirm that. The motor noise on the Ramblas is noticeable, but not too bad IMO. The Brose 2.2 on the Levo was quieter when new, but it's quite a bit noisier than the Ramblas now. I tried getting the whining motor on the Levo replaced under warranty but Specialized said it was "in-spec" and denied their warranty. A replacement motor is about $1300. I can get a Ramblas for less than double that due to rebates on new e-bikes available here ($450 from Colorado and $150 from my electric company). The other thing I liked a lot about the Ramblas is I was told a replacement battery is just $500 compared to about $1300 for the Levo (both are just over 700 Whr). At least my Levo original battery is still going strong.

Anyway, like the reviewer here, I was impressed with how nice the bike is for the price and for being a brand new model. I have to agree that there is a big potential risk in getting one now because of the unproven motor. My Levo motor still works well, but the whining got loud at around 600 miles (I have 2200 miles on it now in a year and a half of ownership). If I got a Ramblas I'd probably look at replacing the spring shock with an air shock although the stock shock felt OK to me on the test ride.

For me it comes down to the motor, including how much faith I would have with a new motor from Specialized. I've read the Brose 2.2 still has a lot of issues and it was sad that mine got a problem after just 600 miles. My guess is Aventon would take care of any motor issues since their reputation would be at stake, but who knows?
 
Direct to consumer bike companies don’t really care about post sale issues do they?
That is a very general question. I had a recent issue with an Aventon Level V2 that I purchased directly from Aventon, and they were very responsive. They sent two parts out to remedy the issue, and although I will be replacing the parts myself, they also offered additional money to have the parts installed at a bike shop.
 
That is a very general question. I had a recent issue with an Aventon Level V2 that I purchased directly from Aventon, and they were very responsive. They sent two parts out to remedy the issue, and although I will be replacing the parts myself, they also offered additional money to have the parts installed at a bike shop.
Aventon has the largest post-sale network of service dealers. I purchased two Aventon Levels back in 2020, when they had no dealer/service network. My two warranty claims went well. I still own one of the Levels. It has performed flawlessly since 2020.
 
I bought the Ramblas a couple of weeks ago & love it. Technically, it's my backup e-mtb (Cannondale Moterra Neo 3), but it's a lot of fun & SOOOO torquey. I've nicknamed my Ramblas The Torquinator!
 
I bought the Ramblas a couple of weeks ago & love it. Technically, it's my backup e-mtb (Cannondale Moterra Neo 3), but it's a lot of fun & SOOOO torquey. I've nicknamed my Ramblas The Torquinator!
Interesting that you have the Cannondale Moterra Neo 3 because that would be my choice if I wanted a nicely priced full suspension bike instead of a hardtail. They are on sale now at $4,000 so that would be $1,200 more than the Ramblas. Besides the full suspension you get a nicer front fork (RockShox Yari) and a very much proven Bosch CX Performance motor with the big 750 Whr battery. I guess it comes down to what you can afford.
 
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love the Cannondale. Got my butt handed to me this weekend in Nevada City, CA on a couple of harder trails on the Ramblas. Those trails showed me the true value of full sus.
 
I tend to agree that for a mountain e-bike I would prefer having a full suspension since the motor's assist makes the extra added weight much less noticable. However the extra weight still makes the bike less nimble going downhill on twisty trails, although I don't take it as fast as I used to on those steep trails. Again it comes down to how much you are willing to spend to add the rear suspension to an e-bike.
 
I work at a dealer for many brands and work on all eBikes 50 hours per week and do a few custom builds on my days off. I built my first Ramblas out of box today, then test rode it. I like it. This will sound weird; If you build it yourself remove the O-rings from the brake post hex cap screws. For manufacturing ease they put little O-rings on the bottoms of the screws so the components stay together. But when locking them down they will go sideways and the brakes can never be dialed. Do not install the provided kickstand if you want to mountain bike. Accidental deployment would be tragic on a single track or rock garden. What was strange is that the motor cuts out at a cadence of about 90. That is about my sweet spot. Full suspensions add weight and spring with pedaling instead of rigidly transferring power to the rear. To some extent you go up and down instead of ahead. They are also more costly to maintain. The bike is easy to throw around and the tail can be lifted with riding technique over lumps. The bike is not intended to be for downhill racing from a ski lift assent. The XL needs a higher stem. I like the bar the same height as the saddle on a MTB. I was somewhat stooped. And stooped is stupid. Overall the bike is quality and smooth. If you have a problem take it to the local dealer that you purchased it from for support. Aventon does not give dealers any pushback. They send the parts, fast. Brian purchased a bike two years ago DTC. It never worked right. We built a new Level 2 today for him that Aventon sent for free.
 
PedalUma, any recommendations on handlebars to be less stooped? I guess the stem & clamp are 35mm, so looked at the Deity Highside 35mm alloy handlebar. Any thoughts on that? I'm thinking to change out the seat, too, but thinking I need to go have a sitting for that.
 
I work at a dealer for many brands and work on all eBikes 50 hours per week and do a few custom builds on my days off. I built my first Ramblas out of box today, then test rode it. I like it. This will sound weird; If you build it yourself remove the O-rings from the brake post hex cap screws. For manufacturing ease they put little O-rings on the bottoms of the screws so the components stay together. But when locking them down they will go sideways and the brakes can never be dialed. Do not install the provided kickstand if you want to mountain bike. Accidental deployment would be tragic on a single track or rock garden. What was strange is that the motor cuts out at a cadence of about 90. That is about my sweet spot. Full suspensions add weight and spring with pedaling instead of rigidly transferring power to the rear. To some extent you go up and down instead of ahead. They are also more costly to maintain. The bike is easy to throw around and the tail can be lifted with riding technique over lumps. The bike is not intended to be for downhill racing from a ski lift assent. The XL needs a higher stem. I like the bar the same height as the saddle on a MTB. I was somewhat stooped. And stooped is stupid. Overall the bike is quality and smooth. If you have a problem take it to the local dealer that you purchased it from for support. Aventon does not give dealers any pushback. They send the parts, fast. Brian purchased a bike two years ago DTC. It never worked right. We built a new Level 2 today for him that Aventon sent for free.
PedalUma in the hizzy!
 
PedalUma, any recommendations on handlebars to be less stooped? I guess the stem & clamp are 35mm, so looked at the Deity Highside 35mm alloy handlebar. Any thoughts on that? I'm thinking to change out the seat, too, but thinking I need to go have a sitting for that.
Thanks for asking. I put a more comfortable seat on that bike yesterday. That Diety is super wide and has an 80mm rise. You will need to use the existing mounting hardware. A needle nose vice grip will prevent the lock barrels from twisting or it is a huge pain. You can use a reducer shim from 35 to 31.8 so almost any bar will work. That plus pedals were the first things I did on my new demo Vado ride.

Stem Shim 31.8mm to 35mm, Aluminum Alloy Easy Install Stem Reducer, Practical Bike Handle Shim Adapter​

Urban Road Bike Bicycle Retro Handlebar 31.8mm Moustache Shape Wide 640mm​

Just cut 1/2 inch from each end. This is an example of a riser bar that is back swept. I use dollar store nail polish applied with scrap foam to cover the logos for matching color and texture.
 
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