Dining out during Covid

[BarryS]

So you were trying to imply that a true Christian repents? And you're also trying to say that you think Donald Trump is a Christian?? He is somebody who has never even said he has done a single thing wrong in his life, he never apologizes, he never repents. When he was asked once if he ever asked Jesus for forgiveness he said "if I ever do anything wrong I will"....

First don't add to what I said . God doesn't chose who gets eternal life and who doesn't . He knows who will and who will refuse to. Salvation is for Chosen people . But not all who are chosen are saved . Very Few are . However Jesus never turns anyone away . Everyone has freewill. It's why God allows evil for now . God is merciful . That's why our generation is going to experience the 7 year Tribulation . So people will actually get all the proof they claim they need to believe . Which isn't even True . Seeing isn't believing . Rather Believing is seeing . Repent doesn't mean becomes Good overnight > It doesn't even mean to become Good. Repentance means to admit to yourself what you really are . I am well familiar with Trump. I knew him personally for 3 months 27 years ago. When the Golf channel was just getting popular . The man has changed . Trump likes to jerk the medias chain .
Being a Christian is like having 100 people tell you about the gospel over 20 year period . You scoff it all off . Then one day someone does something , or says something . Or someone dies . It could be just about anything > Your eyes open like that .

 

[RandallS]

Trump lied to you every day about the virus.
He lied to you about paying off a porn star.
He lied to you about the size of his inauguration
He lied to you about hurricane Dorian
I could go on, but...
And because he lied about paying off Stormy Daniels and Karen MacDougal, that makes him a multiple adulterer.
If a real Christian looks up to this disgusting sinner, they are fooling themselves, and making excuses for the pig that he truly is.

It's probably more environmentally favorable to list the things he HASN'T lied about.
Less paper to print, less ink to use, less storage space in electronic storage etc...

It would make a positive, greener impact, and would be something that he could take credit for. Because he would - that's the way he (and his cronies) roll.

His family however, are in a grey area.
I'm not sure if they wilfully lie, or are just incredibly, mind numbingly, stupid. Probably both but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt - for now.
It's supposedly the humanitarian thing to do (see how I didn't use the "Ch...tian" word - as it's use has been bastardized too much by the evangelicals).

 

[BarryS]

My side? What is my side? We are all humans.

So now you say The Christian Post is fake? I did not realize you were the de facto authority on who are real Christians or not. There's also some actual news articles about Grace Church infection but it's no use posting those because you would say those are fake too. Would it help if I said I knew someone who goes to Grace and has Covid? Oh wait, they aren't real Christians so that's why they caught it.

I'm sorry but it seems you don't understand simple math and science. I'm not sure how many other poster here agree with you that you can have 14,000/week without masks or social distancing and not get Covid. So does that mean they never catch a cold either? Or is every Christian who gets sick lying?

And you never answered my question, has anyone in your church got Covid?

I don't go to church . There are no churches in My area that are teaching Truth . They have conformed to the social Justice format . What I am saying about the article you posted is that it comes from an Organization that used to follow the Bible . It no longer does . The preachers involved there teach Abortion is ok , Living as a Homosexual or as an adulterer are ok . It endorses BLM the organization . At the very least whether you believe or not . If you are claiming to Follow Jesus -but you deny what the Bible clearly says . What else could you be but a Liar . same goes for the Pope and The Catholic Church . Much of what it teaches Go against what the Bible teaches . If anyone should know what the Bible says it would be the Pope . Since he clearly denies it That would make him a liar according to the Bible

I didn't say people didn't get the Colds or flu > I'm saying nobody has gotten Covid there . The same holds true for every church that has stayed open and teaching the actual word of God . Do you know who Joel Olsteen is ?? He has a Mega Church . Far larger the Grace Church .

Where is Joel Olsteen ?

 

[cldlhd]

The 2 are not mutually exclusive. In fact, being an ape guarantees you are a simian.
Here's how that goes. Chimp is a Great Ape.
Chimp is therefore Ape and everything else following back through ancestry, which includes being a Simian, erstwhile known as "Monkey",
and many other groupings, including mammal, quadruped, vertebrate, etc. We still are all those things and so are Chimps. I think you mentioned "Primate" already, right?

Monkeys aren't apes

 

[Handlebars]

Monkeys aren't apes

tHAT'S tRue. But remember, we are talking about ape being monkey. Other way 'round.

 

[cldlhd]

First don't add to what I said . God doesn't chose who gets eternal life and who doesn't . He knows who will and who will refuse to. Salvation is for Chosen people . But not all who are chosen are saved . Very Few are . However Jesus never turns anyone away . Everyone has freewill. It's why God allows evil for now . God is merciful . That's why our generation is going to experience the 7 year Tribulation . So people will actually get all the proof they claim they need to believe . Which isn't even True . Seeing isn't believing . Rather Believing is seeing . Repent doesn't mean becomes Good overnight > It doesn't even mean to become Good. Repentance means to admit to yourself what you really are . I am well familiar with Trump. I knew him personally for 3 months 27 years ago. When the Golf channel was just getting popular . The man has changed . Trump likes to jerk the medias chain .
Being a Christian is like having 100 people tell you about the gospel over 20 year period . You scoff it all off . Then one day someone does something , or says something . Or someone dies . It could be just about anything > Your eyes open like that .

Shopenhauer said there is no free will. Your choices are predetermined by your brains inborn wiring and your experiences and neither of which you have control over. So if God made those who will accept salvation he also made those who won't so why did he make them that way? Furthermore if he made them how do they have free will? Either that or he made us with free will but if I have free will how does he know how well it decided? If it's already predetermined that it's not my fault and therefore I shouldn't be punished. As in he made my brain the way it is and he wired it the way it is so he knows how I will choose set up punish me for something he made seems wrong, I mean if the equipment is not functioning correctly then I blame the maker.

 

[cldlhd]

tHAT'S tRue. But remember, we are talking about ape being monkey. Other way 'round.

exactly there is something to ssy as to whether or not apes are still considered monkeys or if they descended from monkeys , that's why a lot of people like to just use the general term simian .

 

[cldlhd]

I don't go to church . There are no churches in My area that are teaching Truth . They have conformed to the social Justice format . What I am saying about the article you posted is that it comes from an Organization that used to follow the Bible . It no longer does . The preachers involved there teach Abortion is ok , Living as a Homosexual or as an adulterer are ok . It endorses BLM the organization . At the very least whether you believe or not . If you are claiming to Follow Jesus -but you deny what the Bible clearly says . What else could you be but a Liar . same goes for the Pope and The Catholic Church . Much of what it teaches Go against what the Bible teaches . If anyone should know what the Bible says it would be the Pope . Since he clearly denies it That would make him a liar according to the Bible

I didn't say people didn't get the Colds or flu > I'm saying nobody has gotten Covid there . The same holds true for every church that has stayed open and teaching the actual word of God . Do you know who Joel Olsteen is ?? He has a Mega Church . Far larger the Grace Church .

Where is Joel Olsteen ?

So you're saying that being an adulterer is bad? But Trump is good?...

 

[Handlebars]

What is the source you're using for this stat?

Our DNA is 99.9% the same as the person next to us — and we're surprisingly similar to a lot of other living things

Our bodies have 3 billion genetic building blocks, or base pairs, that make us who we are. And only a tiny amount are unique to us.

www.businessinsider.com

coefficient of relatedness​

the mean number of genes shared between two related individuals. Identical twins share 100% of their genes and have a coefficient of relatedness of 1. Between siblings and between parents and offspring, the coefficient of relatedness is .5; between uncles or aunts and nieces or nephews and between grandparents and grand-offspring, it is .25; and between first cousins, it is .125. Most studies of kin recognition and kin-directed behavior show effects only with coefficients of relatedness of 0.25 and greater. See also inclusive fitness.

 

[cldlhd]

coefficient of relatedness​

the mean number of genes shared between two related individuals. Identical twins share 100% of their genes and have a coefficient of relatedness of 1. Between siblings and between parents and offspring, the coefficient of relatedness is .5; between uncles or aunts and nieces or nephews and between grandparents and grand-offspring, it is .25; and between first cousins, it is .125. Most studies of kin recognition and kin-directed behavior show effects only with coefficients of relatedness of 0.25 and greater. See also inclusive fitness.

Boy that's a bit much to follow I'd rather talk about monkeys

 

[Handlebars]

exactly there is something to ssy as to whether or not apes are still considered monkeys or if they descended from monkeys , that's why a lot of people like to just use the general turn simian .

Other languages makes the relationship easier and more clear to see than English does.
Why would ancestral forms suddenly be wrong as we trace ancestry back and back through the forms?
We never outgrow an ancestor in history.
If we did not outgrow "Great Ape" and did not outgrow "Ape" then why did we just miss out in being in the groups that comes next until some mystery primate squirrel looking thing hits the news?
The answer is we don't outgrow being Simian, just like we did not outgrow being Ape. Or Vertebrate.

 

[Handlebars]

coefficient of relatedness​

the mean number of genes shared between two related individuals. Identical twins share 100% of their genes and have a coefficient of relatedness of 1. Between siblings and between parents and offspring, the coefficient of relatedness is .5; between uncles or aunts and nieces or nephews and between grandparents and grand-offspring, it is .25; and between first cousins, it is .125. Most studies of kin recognition and kin-directed behavior show effects only with coefficients of relatedness of 0.25 and greater. See also inclusive fitness.

It's not more than we are discussing. Identical twins share 100% of genes. Brothers and sisters share 50%
That Monkey shares 98%

 

[cldlhd]

Other languages makes the relationship easier and more clear to see than English does.
Why would ancestral forms suddenly be wrong as we trace ancestry back and back through the forms?
We never outgrow an ancestor in history.
If we did not outgrow "Great Ape" and did not outgrow "Ape" then why did we just miss out in being in the groups that comes next until some mystery primate squirrel looking thing hits the news?
The answer is we don't outgrow being Simian, just like we did not outgrow being Ape. Or Vertebrate.

Well yeah if you could trace back far enough you could find an ape That's your relative I guess. I assume for some of us that might be a further trip back than others

 

[BarryS]

It's probably more environmentally favorable to list the things he HASN'T lied about.
Less paper to print, less ink to use, less storage space in electronic storage etc...

It would make a positive, greener impact, and would be something that he could take credit for. Because he would - that's the way he (and his cronies) roll.

His family however, are in a grey area.
I'm not sure if they wilfully lie, or are just incredibly, mind numbingly, stupid. Probably both but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt - for now.
It's supposedly the humanitarian thing to do (see how I didn't use the "Ch...tian" word - as it's use has been bastardized too much by the evangelicals).

Why can't you guys let the Trump hate go > I don't get it . Even your party seems engulfed in Revenge on an innocent man .

Well yeah if you could trace back far enough you could find an ape That's your relative I guess. I assume for some of us that might be a further trip back than others

trace back far enough?? So you have no proof whatever ? I don't have enough faith to believe something nobody can prove anything about . They even admit it . When they say Pre-historic evidence ??? There is no such thing as Pre-historic evidence . The word itself says exactly that .

 

[Handlebars]

Well yeah if you could trace back far enough you could find an ape That's your relative I guess. I assume for some of us that might be a further trip back than others

OK, so you know that our ancestors are great apes and or at least apes. That goes for every human ever. But it doesn't stop there. the next broad and common language grouping along is "monkey" or "simian". Primate is further back..but still extant in our understanding. We are primates.

 

[Handlebars]

Wiki:
The simians or anthropoids or higher primates are an infraorder (Simiiformes /ˈsɪmi.ɪfɔːrmiːz/) of primates containing the parvorders Platyrrhini and Catarrhini, which consist of the superfamilies Cercopithecoidea and Hominoidea (including the genus Homo).

The simians are sister to the tarsiers, together forming the haplorhines. The radiation occurred about 60 million years ago (during the Cenozoic era); 40 million years ago, simians from Afro-Arabia colonized South America, giving rise to the New World monkeys. The remaining simians (catarrhines) split 25 million years ago into Old World monkeys and apes (including humans).

 

[cldlhd]

Wiki:
The simians or anthropoids or higher primates are an infraorder (Simiiformes /ˈsɪmi.ɪfɔːrmiːz/) of primates containing the parvorders Platyrrhini and Catarrhini, which consist of the superfamilies Cercopithecoidea and Hominoidea (including the genus Homo).

The simians are sister to the tarsiers, together forming the haplorhines. The radiation occurred about 60 million years ago (during the Cenozoic era); 40 million years ago, simians from Afro-Arabia colonized South America, giving rise to the New World monkeys. The remaining simians (catarrhines) split 25 million years ago into Old World monkeys and apes (including humans).

Don't tell Barry Barry that

 

[BarryS]

Wiki:
The simians or anthropoids or higher primates are an infraorder (Simiiformes /ˈsɪmi.ɪfɔːrmiːz/) of primates containing the parvorders Platyrrhini and Catarrhini, which consist of the superfamilies Cercopithecoidea and Hominoidea (including the genus Homo).

The simians are sister to the tarsiers, together forming the haplorhines. The radiation occurred about 60 million years ago (during the Cenozoic era); 40 million years ago, simians from Afro-Arabia colonized South America, giving rise to the New World monkeys. The remaining simians (catarrhines) split 25 million years ago into Old World monkeys and apes (including humans).

Who exactly was around 25-40 billion years ago to validate this ? OOH yeah Dawkins lol

 

[Handlebars]

Why can't you guys let the Trump hate go > I don't get it . Even your party seems engulfed in Revenge on an innocent man .

trace back far enough?? So you have no proof whatever ? I don't have enough faith to believe something nobody can prove anything about . They even admit it . When they say Pre-historic evidence ??? There is no such thing as Pre-historic evidence . The word itself says exactly that .

Relax, Barry. All it is is investigating the development of different kinds of critters that were created until the ultimate in likeness to the image of ... you know.

 

[cldlhd]

Who exactly was around 25-40 billion years ago to validate this ? OOH yeah Dawkins lol

Priceless