Bikes with Gen 4 Bosch Performance Line Speed

[tbar23]

Does anyone know of a reliable list of bikes with the Gen 4 Bosch Performance Line Speed motor?

I know that Trek has the Allant+ and Domane+ HP. Gazelle has Medeo and Ultimate T10+.
Are the Cannondale bikes Gen 4 or previous gen?

 

[Law]

Bulls Iconic TR1 speed.

 

[tbar23]

Yep - can‘t believe I forgot the Bulls. I rode the Iconic TR1. They also have the new Urban Evo 10 with Gen 4 speed.

 

[Deacon Blues]

Does anyone know of a reliable list of bikes with the Gen 4 Bosch Performance Line Speed motor?

I know that Trek has the Allant+ and Domane+ HP. Gazelle has Medeo and Ultimate T10+.
Are the Cannondale bikes Gen 4 or previous gen?

My 2020 Cannondale Topstone Neo Lefty 3 has a Bosch gen 4 motor.

 

[tbar23]

My 2020 Cannondale Topstone Neo Lefty 3 has a Bosch gen 4 motor.

@Deacon Blues perfrormance line speed or performance CX? Eg 20 or 28 mph top speed?

 

[Stefan Mikes]

Cube e-bikes.

 

[Alaskan]

Just look at the chain ring on Bosch powered bikes. If it is normal sized (40+ teeth) it is Gen 4. Any bike with a Bosch performance line speed made in 2020 or later is a gen 4

 

[Deacon Blues]

@Deacon Blues perfrormance line speed or performance CX? Eg 20 or 28 mph top speed?

28mph ebikes are not allowed in Canada, so all ebikes with Bosch motors max out at 20mph.

 

[tbar23]

@Alaskan is that because the previous generations have that 2x ratio and the oblong motor housing?

 

[Alaskan]

@Alaskan is that because the previous generations have that 2x ratio and the oblong motor housing?

Chain ring, oblong housing and overall larger motor by 40%, heavier as well.

 

[tbar23]

@Stefan Mikes - I was just looking at the Cube offerings. They all appear to use the CX line, yes? Limited to 20mph.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

There is a 45 km/h e-bike I found in the Canadian website of Cube:

Kathmandu Hybrid 45 625 Mens Touring Ebike - CUBE Bikes

cube-bikes.ca

Which is rather strange, as that bike should not be offered for Canada. I know nothing of the U.S. availability.

 

[Deacon Blues]

I would be (pleasantly) surprised if someone could actually buy this bike in Canada. Cit-E-Cycles, a large ebike store in Vancouver has a large selection of Cube ebikes, but not the Kathmandu 45. If it was available they'd probably stock it.

 

[tbar23]

@Deacon Blues Cube responded to a request I sent and said that the 45 is the bike that their “US dealers buy”.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

Sure. No LBS would risk their dealership to break the law.

 

[William - Bosch Team]

We are aware that some OEMs are distributing Class 3/ 28 mph eBikes in Canada, though I don't have specifics on what/where. As was mentioned, this is not in compliance with rules/regulations in Canada. I don't know anything about the likelihood or severity of fines associated with getting "caught" riding one of these units, but warranty may be a bit complicated. Bosch is not able to support a product outside of intended region, so it may be necessary to get with OEM if there is ever an issue.

 

[RockyMtnHoot]

The idea that “speed” bikes are illegal anywhere class 1 and 2 are legal is a bit absurd.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

The idea that “speed” bikes are illegal anywhere class 1 and 2 are legal is a bit absurd.

If you think so, ride a motorcycle into a bike path.

 

[e-boy]

Does anyone know of a reliable list of bikes with the Gen 4 Bosch Performance Line Speed motor?

I know that Trek has the Allant+ and Domane+ HP. Gazelle has Medeo and Ultimate T10+.
Are the Cannondale bikes Gen 4 or previous gen?

All of the following bicycle manufacturers offer eBikes with factory-installed drive systems from Bosch.
https://www.bosch-ebike.com/us/service/brands/ebike-brands/

Contact :
https://www.bosch-ebike.com/us/service/contact/

 

[tbar23]

All of the following bicycle manufacturers offer eBikes with factory-installed drive systems from Bosch.
https://www.bosch-ebike.com/us/service/brands/ebike-brands/

Contact :
https://www.bosch-ebike.com/us/service/contact/

Nice - thank you!