Battery connectors. info needed.

[harryS]

Unless it's a Stromer? I recall a thread where a guy had a Satiator wired up to his battery's 3 pin charge plug, and it didn't work. I believe it was a Stromer.

Everything else leaves the third pin alone.

I was wondering like you, Thomas, about what's the concern about the plug if the new battery has to fit in that box anyway.

 

[tomjasz]

Unless it's a Stromer? I recall a thread where a guy had a Satiator wired up to his battery's 3 pin charge plug, and it didn't work. I believe it was a Stromer.

Everything else leaves the third pin alone.

I was wondering like you, Thomas, about what's the concern about the plug if the new battery has to fit in that box anyway.

That is my problem with many nice bikes. The 3rd com wire

 

[AHicks]

Oddly some do. One port is left alone! XLR connectors are 3 pin too.

Yes, agree. Poor choice of words. I should have said they only NEED 2 ports.

 

[dragnmastralex]

Not really. If you don't use the old battery, why use the old connectors?

the old battery still has some juice in it but its reaching the end of its life as it only goes half the distance that it use to go. I don't want to completely junk it until it can no longer hold a charge long enough to get me to my closest dollar general. after that point I'll be using a new battery exclusively. However in the mean time I still need the new battery to take me to the places the old one will not go anymore. currently my battery holds enough of a charge to get me around 2 miles in distance when it used to get me up to 5 or 6 miles. Batteries aren't cheap so I want to get as much life out of one as I can. If I can save the new battery for only when I need it than I extend its life as short trips would help diminish the amount of times I can use it.

 

[dragnmastralex]

My wife's Liberty Trike has the standard 3-prong on the battery. They might have a battery you could use.

Liberty Trikes (forgive the pun here but...) charge too much for their batteries. $470 for a 36v 8000 MaH battery that only has 800 cycles... that's paying $2 per charge to go 4 miles distance... if that were gas milage that's 50 cents a mile. crazy expensive for a low capacity battery with low voltage. be like me selling a 1 gallon can of gasoline at 12 dollars right now when its under 2 dollars everywhere else.

 

[Lightning P38]

Hello I need some info from experienced e bike owners I have an electric bike and its connector for the motor to the battery is a 3-port house plug like this:
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but when I search for an official name or serial number for a plug like this I can't find any. I need to know so I can find a converter to fit to the new battery I bought that uses a xt60 plug like this:
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any ideas? any help at all would be great.

FYI.
I have the 3 prong plug on my battery. It does not match a 110 volt house plug, as I tried it and it would not fit.

 

[dAz63]

the old battery still has some juice in it but its reaching the end of its life as it only goes half the distance that it use to go. I don't want to completely junk it until it can no longer hold a charge long enough to get me to my closest dollar general.

Ok, well the first thing you need to do is identify the motor plug, is it the same as a standard appliance plug as used on computer tower cases and instant pots etc, or is it one of the scooter plugs that Thomas linked to, once you have the right socket, then unscrew the socket from the old battery to check how is wired and wire the new socket to the XT-60 connector.

 

[tomjasz]

Look if you can’t take the time to post your connectors it’s hard to help .ive asked for additional information/pictures. I can very easily create an adapter but need my questions answered. If not cest la vie

FYI.
I have the 3 prong plug on my battery. It does not match a 110 volt house plug, as I tried it and it would not fit.

Picture? Please!

 

[tomjasz]

Liberty Trikes (forgive the pun here but...) charge too much for their batteries. $470 for a 36v 8000 MaH battery that only has 800 cycles... that's paying $2 per charge to go 4 miles distance... if that were gas milage that's 50 cents a mile. crazy expensive for a low capacity battery with low voltage. be like me selling a 1 gallon can of gasoline at 12 dollars right now when its under 2 dollars everywhere else.

Your numbers are off. By a huge margin.

 

[dragnmastralex]

Your numbers are off. By a huge margin.

either way I'm considering switching to a gas powered moped instead of this electric bike. if I have to consistently do rewiring on it and drop 300 to 500 dollars every year on it, its much cheaper to get the moped that I can go 80 to 100 miles on 1 gallon of gas with. one of the 50cc version are the same price as a electric bike and if I add some peddles to it to classify it as a motorized bicycle I don't have to worry about tags and registration on it. electric may be more green by its way to expensive and I didn't think I'd have to turn into an electrician to keep it running.

 

[indianajo]

either way I'm considering switching to a gas powered moped instead of this electric bike. if I have to consistently do rewiring on it and drop 300 to 500 dollars every year on it, its much cheaper to get the moped that I can go 80 to 100 miles on 1 gallon of gas

Who need their hearing?. Those things are a danger to ears from 200 m away.
You can make an adapter in an hour, but it would take an entire minute to read post #10. Don't waste your time.

 

[AHicks]

either way I'm considering switching to a gas powered moped instead of this electric bike. if I have to consistently do rewiring on it and drop 300 to 500 dollars every year on it, its much cheaper to get the moped that I can go 80 to 100 miles on 1 gallon of gas with. one of the 50cc version are the same price as a electric bike and if I add some peddles to it to classify it as a motorized bicycle I don't have to worry about tags and registration on it. electric may be more green by its way to expensive and I didn't think I'd have to turn into an electrician to keep it running.

More drama.

With the time it's taken you to write you original note and read the replies, you could have easily made you own adapter.

Bonus with the gas powered rig is you could complain about it not starting or running right!

 

[dragnmastralex]

More drama.

With the time it's taken you to write you original note and read the replies, you could have easily made you own adapter.

Bonus with the gas powered rig is you could complain about it not starting or running right!

i'm not an electrician but I have worked with gas motors before I know more on how to fix a corroborator than rewire a battery powered motor. and the cost difference is way cheaper to maintain a $90 2 stroke engine kit than a $400 battery bike. I was just looking for a converter wire so I wouldn't have to deal with rewiring after getting a new battery, but if i have to pay the money AND work on the bike its not worth it. I'll probably just sell the e-bike I have since the battery still does work for short trips and use the money to get a decent motor kit for my manual bike which I can maintain a lot easier and go a lot further in distance. as long as the cylinder heads are good, I replace the gaskets and filter every year, and I don't let the gasoline sit for an extended amount of time I can go near 50 to 80 miles on each refill which is what I wanted a motorized bike for.. travel. I use it to go shopping and pick up my meds as I don't have a car because I can't afford one.

so thanks for the help and advice but I'm not looking to basically learn to be an electrician in order to upkeep an e-bike. you have to realize that i live in rural Ohio not California where its common tech... here they look at me like i'm growing a 3rd head when they see my electric bike. no bike shops around here for 50 miles and even those only do normal bikes they are clueless about electric ones.

 

[tomjasz]

i'm not an electrician but I have worked with gas motors before I know more on how to fix a corroborator than rewire a battery powered motor. and the cost difference is way cheaper to maintain a $90 2 stroke engine kit than a $400 battery bike. I was just looking for a converter wire so I wouldn't have to deal with rewiring after getting a new battery, but if i have to pay the money AND work on the bike its not worth it. I'll probably just sell the e-bike I have since the battery still does work for short trips and use the money to get a decent motor kit for my manual bike which I can maintain a lot easier and go a lot further in distance. as long as the cylinder heads are good, I replace the gaskets and filter every year, and I don't let the gasoline sit for an extended amount of time I can go near 50 to 80 miles on each refill which is what I wanted a motorized bike for.. travel. I use it to go shopping and pick up my meds as I don't have a car because I can't afford one.

so thanks for the help and advice but I'm not looking to basically learn to be an electrician in order to upkeep an e-bike. you have to realize that i live in rural Ohio not California where its common tech... here they look at me like i'm growing a 3rd head when they see my electric bike. no bike shops around here for 50 miles and even those only do normal bikes they are clueless about electric ones.

Those gas motors are cheap crap. 10 times the complexity. Your numbers are way off. Count me out. You can lead a horse to water but not make him drink . Good luck.

 

[AHicks]

Those gas motors are cheap crap. 10 times the complexity. Your numbers are way off. Count me out. You can lead a horse to water but not make him drink . Good luck.

Thomas, "I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you" my new favorite.... -Al

 

[dragnmastralex]

Those gas motors are cheap crap. 10 times the complexity. Your numbers are way off. Count me out. You can lead a horse to water but not make him drink . Good luck.

the batteries all have different wiring and a 3 wire to a 2 wire hook up means I have to find out which 2 of the wires I need and since they AREN'T color coded both wires are black on the battery I don't know which to connect to what. if I cross them I can short it out and since the new battery comes with a circuit board that prevents overcharging the last thing I'd need is to short that out. sorry but to someone who knows how to wire electronics everything may be very easy but to someone that has never dealt with this kind of thing before it's not easy. I don't exactly have a toolbox full of electrician's gear like a polarity tester or wire strippers... and I didn't want to spend hundreds of dollars buying all that either. gas motors more complex? its a 2 stroke engine... 1 cylinder. as long as the throttle is working and I connect the carb on it right the hardest part is the wheel sprocket that I have to balance in place perfectly. I've done research on the gas motors so far the only complaints I see on them is from dented gas tanks and rattling spark plugs because they didn't get the gap on them right.

I'm a better mechanic than I am electrician. I use to have a 50cc Chinese moped that I sold and I kept that running until the electrical side went bad on me. if i can do it for that I surely can do it for a 2 stroke push bike motor. its like an oversize weed trimmer. if I mess that up its less than 100 to start over. If i short out the e-bike battery... that's $400 mistake. not willing to take that gamble.

 

[AHicks]

Send a picture or 2 of the battery with the 2 black wires showing. Betting one of us would be able to tell you which is which given the right pics.

 

[Browneye]

More drama.

With the time it's taken you to write you original note and read the replies, you could have easily made you own adapter.

Bonus with the gas powered rig is you could complain about it not starting or running right!

You have the patience of a saint. My ADD kicked in on the last page...

 

[PDXzap]

The Tres Terra Europa used the same connector for their battery. I can get a picture tomorrow if that would help.

 

[tomjasz]

the batteries all have different wiring and a 3 wire to a 2 wire hook up means I have to find out which 2 of the wires I need and since they AREN'T color coded both wires are black on the battery I don't know which to connect to what.

I'm a better mechanic than I am electrician. I use to have a 50cc Chinese moped that I sold and I kept that running until the electrical side went bad on me. if i can do it for that I surely can do it for a 2 stroke push bike motor. its like an oversize weed trimmer. if I mess that up its less than 100 to start over. If i short out the e-bike battery... that's $400 mistake. not willing to take that gamble.

Good land man, it's just wires and a simple multimeter solves all confusion. Three-wire batteries are for cycles with communication between components. All of my multimeters will display a - minus sign when pos and neg are reversed. You can also trace a wire on the continuity setting.