Bafang 72v 3000w Rear-hub motor

[Ken Shopken]

Has anyone else been seeing this new motor (Bafang 72v 3000w Rear-hub motor) and the Magician Ebike company coming on the scene?

50mph claimed speeds and improved range moves them into a near motorcycle class.

They also have a fat tire, full suspended mid drive with a new Bafang 72v motor that uses a torque sensor and an rpm sensor selection. Seems like its priced quite low for what it is.

I may buy one instead of building a full suspended fat bike for snow and rock explorations.

https://magicianebikes.com/collections/all-product

 

[Ken Shopken]

Interesting...

 

[Biplaneguy]

50mph claimed speeds and improved range moves them into a near motorcycle class.

That isn't an ebike; that IS a motorcycle.

Please keep it off public roads unless it's registered and insured. The legal crackdowns these fast pseudo "ebikes" are causing hurt all legit ebike riders.

 

[Ken Shopken]

That isn't an ebike; that IS a motorcycle.

Please keep it off public roads unless it's registered and insured. The legal crackdowns these fast pseudo "ebikes" are causing hurt all legit ebike riders.

It is somewhere between a motorcycle and an ebike with the use of a torque sensor.

No interest in 50mph on an e-bike but the power and range is welcome on long, rough and steep climbs however.

I would ride it as a bike wherever I please without any issues or dangers common to the use of a bicycle.

Cutting loose kids and young teens with this speed potential on the public roads would endanger a large portion of them and certainly light off more than a few Karen's across the country.

This bike matches the performance of my DM01 ToSeven kit.

 

[Chazmo]

Specs on the Atlas say it’s a Bafang G510 motor (mid-drive), which seems to be 52V, not 72V. Is that the bike you’re talking about? I’m not seeing the 3kW rear drive hub version??

 

[RunForTheHills]

The Atlas looks interesting, but it is not legal to ride most places and the weight is off-putting. "Total weight of bike with battery = 113lbs / Total weight of bike without battery = 83.8lbs". The Aventon Ramblas is half the weight and the same price range. Even though the Ramblas is a hard-tail, I think I would go that way instead of the Atlas.

 

[Chazmo]

The Atlas looks interesting, but it is not legal to ride most places and the weight is off-putting. "Total weight of bike with battery = 113lbs / Total weight of bike without battery = 83.8lbs". The Aventon Ramblas is half the weight and the same price range. Even though the Ramblas is a hard-tail, I think I would go that way instead of the Atlas.

Hi Run!

Aventon has the Aventure model, which is a fatty that’s probably a better comparison than the Ramblas. The Aventure M is fairly new and has their A100 mid-drive as well as their most recent electronics to match. Very appealing bike, particularly at 73lbs. If I were shopping...

 

[Ken Shopken]

Specs on the Atlas say it’s a Bafang G510 motor (mid-drive), which seems to be 52V, not 72V. Is that the bike you’re talking about? I’m not seeing the 3kW rear drive hub version??

I was speaking about both models.. I did assume the mid drive was also 72v and did not check the specs.

 

[Ken Shopken]

The Atlas looks interesting, but it is not legal to ride most places and the weight is off-putting. "Total weight of bike with battery = 113lbs / Total weight of bike without battery = 83.8lbs". The Aventon Ramblas is half the weight and the same price range. Even though the Ramblas is a hard-tail, I think I would go that way instead of the Atlas.

A real porker for sure...

 

[Chazmo]

I was speaking about both models.. I did assume the mid drive was also 72v and did not check the specs.

If you have a link to this anywhere, let me know, Ken. Just curious, really. And, of course, I have seen nothing and know nothing about this company.

 

[Ken Shopken]

As well as finding a full suspension mid drive fat tire bike for the snow and big rocks, I am also interested in a rear hub motor bike with this kind of power, to take me to the gym or on parts runs into town a few times a week, 15-18 miles one way. The ability to travel at least 45mph on our secondary country roads with near the speed of fast moving traffic, and yet enough range to make this practical is very appealing to me. It would eliminate the desire to create an electric motorcycle for this purpose.

We have a Rad 20" bike and a Fucare Libra 20" tire bikes but they are a bit hairy with traffic on our minimal shoulder roads even when using a motorcycle mirror as they are simply not fast enough to move with traffic.

Off road I have been riding a Yamaha YDX Moro and my own converted semi fat tire mountain bike with a Toseven Dm01.


Here is the company link;

all product

Explore the Magician Ebike series, featuring Alpha 72V off-road electric bicycles with advanced frame technology, Bafang high-power motors, and precision engineering. Enjoy customizable performance, reliable support, and exclusive offers. Ride confidently on any terrain!

magicianebikes.com

 

[Ken Shopken]

Hi Run!

Aventon has the Aventure model, which is a fatty that’s probably a better comparison than the Ramblas. The Aventure M is fairly new and has their A100 mid-drive as well as their most recent electronics to match. Very appealing bike, particularly at 73lbs. If I were shopping...

Looks like a nice machine bit I do not see a mention of the use of a torque sensor over a cadence sensor? I personally have a dislike of cadence sensor bikes on or off road. I may not contribute much to the power output, but the workout of contributing is worthwhile. I ride our cadence sensor bikes at lower pas levels but it rarely seem to match my output very well.

 

[RunForTheHills]

Looks like a nice machine bit I do not see a mention of the use of a torque sensor over a cadence sensor? I personally have a dislike of cadence sensor bikes on or off road. I may not contribute much to the power output, but the workout of contributing is worthwhile. I ride our cadence sensor bikes at lower pas levels but it rarely seem to match my output very well.

If you look at the specs, it's has a torque sensor:
Sensors
Double Sided Torque Sensor Integrated in Motor